Alright I might get some hate for this but let me say first that i really enjoy Fo4 I mean the new VATS I love the gun play the environment everything I love. which is why I was disappointing when I realized that i had done just about everything within just about 100 hours. above this my brother, to, was disappointed. So I just want to know if i'm alone in these feeling or not.

I guess you're not, seeing as your brother seems to feel this way too.

Anyway, go on...
*Nods head, scribbling on clipboard.*
Mhmm, mhmm... Yes... And how does that make you feel?

So you're upset that there was a lack of content or that it was too easy you were able to accelerate through the game?

Sorry I'm just not sure what you're disappointed about.

Yeah I kinda do, too. But mainly the dialogues. I do wish there were more interesting quests, especially for the factions, as well. But that being said, I've enjoyed the other aspects of it.

All the reasons for FO4 being a bad game is on its Metacritic User Reviews. Great reading.

But for apologists and fanboys there's this:

Spoiler:

If I had a dime for every time someone started crying about fallout 4 because they rushed through it or played it the wrong way I would be rich. I mean that's all the complaints really are no one will justify why they hate it they just hate it makes no sense personally if it's that bad you can always get a refund. Just a little bit of logic coming by.

Acekiler wrote:

If I had a dime for every time someone started crying about fallout 4 because they rushed through it or played it the wrong way I would be rich. I mean that's all the complaints really are no one will justify why they hate it they just hate it makes no sense personally if it's that bad you can always get a refund. Just a little bit of logic coming by.

It might be difficult if you have 100 hours playing the game, completed the main quest to get a refund from steam.

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It doesn't matter. Valve will, upon request via help.steampowered.com, issue a refund for any reason, if the request is made within fourteen days of purchase, and the title has been played for less than two hours. There are more details below, but even if you fall outside of the refund rules we’ve described, you can ask for a refund anyway and we’ll take a look.

Mostly the refund seems to be geared to incompatibles of the game and the users system or really terrible games that won't be played at all. Not a game that in time you regret playing.

AS for people complain about it. I have parts I don't like. Parts I do like. It isn't FO3 or FNV in style or makeup in my option. The seem to have deviated from both styles and that might be what most are upset about. Those that love it likely like the new content like settlement creation etc.

As for content... I remember both FO3 and FNV (got it the day of release) and they felt a bit weak (although yes Fallout 3 was more substantial out of the gate) It wasn't until the add on DLC content came around that made it fell like it was more substantial. yes. again Fallout 3 was more substantial than Fallout NV in content (in my opinion) and likely Fallout NV will be more substantial than Fallout 4 as well (with all the DLC's released). This is the trend it seems with many games nowadays. I can't point to Bethesda for doing a crap job and creating content for their game when other companies do the same or release with even less content.

I am waiting for the modding scene to come into play. I am interested to see what can be done now that it is a 64bit system capable (or so I was told . With this the textures and mods can be more substantial in form no longer having problems with the memory limit. At least one could hope for.

A big yes for me but lets hope mods can revive it

@"junkacc" That chart was extremely unnecessary, no one prior to your comment was being an apologist. By posting stuff like that you diminish any chance of having a healthy conversation because it deters people with different opinions than OP.

I thought it was great, but didn't live up to the hype. Once the modding community starts going, it'll be amazing.

I was so hyped for the game, but after playing for a few hours, it felt like I'm playing a fps game more than a fallout game.
So it is a disappointment.

I liked it, it felt more like an FPS with a hint of RPG mechanics. I'm sure once the modding community gets rolling a lot of these problems will be fixed and awesome mods will be released

yeah i'm kinda disappointed by the game, idk it doesn't feel anything like new vegas besides the shooting mechanics and a new world it just seems like its missing something imo.

For me it wasn't that eye opening. To me it doesn't have the charm that 3 and NV have for me. I enjoy the game, but I didn't have as much fun with it as I thought I would have.

@"YeezusJeezus" yeah that's pretty much how I felt it was just so hyped to unbelievable proportions, to the point that I don't even know how anything could have lived up to that amount of hype.

SomeKid123 wrote:

@YeezusJeezus yeah that's pretty much how I felt it was just so hyped to unbelievable proportions, to the point that I don't even know how anything could have lived up to that amount of hype.

Good point it was hyped up quite a bit..

Personally i am not disappointed at all and have been having a ton of fun. The thing is though with all the hype that Fallout 4 built up over the years, there was just no way it could live up to it. No matter how good the game was there would be people disappointed.

I mean, sure, fallout 4 diminished the meaningful choices down a whole lot, but I still feel like it's overall quite a good game, even if the rpg part is watered down, the quests are lacking (Which is actually understandable, because not a lot of people want to do tedious seemingly useless tasks) but a lot of the gameplay is a whole lot of fun, more so than previous games


Just a unrelated* side thought: I have no idea what it is, but there is a part of me that will always idolize NV, not only because it was my late introduction to the game, but it has this... This feel to it, ya know?

kalitx wrote:

@"junkacc" That chart was extremely unnecessary, no one prior to your comment was being an apologist. By posting stuff like that you diminish any chance of having a healthy conversation because it deters people with different opinions than OP.

Someone made that chart when the game just came out and all the fanboys were out in full force, making honest discussion of the game impossible. After FO4 missed GOTY, the shilling and syncopathy has gone down quite abit but it never hurts to remind people of the craziness that is fanboyism.

Gameplay wise it's more of an FPS than an RPG, and a bad one at that compared to other recent offerings. But Bethesda games are never good on their own with the possible exception of MOrrowind -- it's the mods that make or break them. So what have Bethesda given us this time in terms of moddability. A game pretty empty in terms of storytelling but improved shooting mechanics. Almost an empty slate so modders can go wild on it, if only they can get around the voiced protagonist problem. On the bright side, at least there won't be much need for combat overhauls this time.

Disappointing ? Yeah I need to say It was little bit disappointing.
Is it bad ? Nah It's quite great game 7,5/10 for me but yeah still no mods... With mods it will end up with something around 9/10 from me. Btw The story is... well main story is JUST NO kind of thing. But seeing how they made Fallout 3 ending feel whole using DLC I can see them doing the same with FO4 as they really don't want acknowledge FO:NV existence really
(I really like the side stories and world feels less empty now but Ocean is just worse...)