Can we talk about the ending for a sec?

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ive put over four days and got the platinum trophy on ps4 (100% achievements) and i give it a solid 8 out of 10... reasons being for that was the all the endings were rather bland, those repetitive "another settlement needs your help general" were i think a good 60% of the side quests, and it felt like a FPS then a fallout rpg... but other then that the gunplay was brilliant and the weapon crafting was also pretty amazing IMO

Honestly I enjoyed playing it. I put about 250 hours of game play time. Fallout 4 has some high points to it like the overall gun customization, Graphics are good but, could have been much better. The story was decent and the overall combat was way more improved. Building settlements was exhilarating but, felt like minecraft with better graphics. The only real excitement of fallout 4. Downsides, the story never really felt like my story. It just seemed like whatever i made a decision on always provided the same results. The dialogue was shit, same result no matter what i said. Only giving me four options as well? Wtf. The repetitive fucking quests for the minutemen and every other faction was fucking boring. Hopefully Weapon mods and quest mods make the game fun again but, until then it kinda stinks right now.

@gabet347

Right let me say my thing.

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@veteranAlpha96

the game has not been in development for 7 years there was this little tiny thing called skyrim in between

The only disappointment for me is the lack of good writing, Bethesda need to new writers ASAP.

@Havoc They still had a ton of time compared to New Vegas.

My main complaint is the lack of content and quests. It feels like, to me they just said "here's a half ass story and a huge open world with Sh*t loads of raiders and buildings with nothing in them. We'll leave the rest to the modders." I like the weapon modding, but there isn't enough different model guns for me to really care. I also hate how you can only wear 3 different clothes under armor. Not that customisable like they made it out to be. Power armor is pointless once I got up to 8000 stimpaks and eventually started selling them. Fusion Cores are cool and are realistic, but I'm not about to spend hours looking for more when I run out. I also don't like the lack of dialogue in characters with names, some of which don't even do anything.

id say it was pretty good as far as games go, sure it seems the game was designed more by a marketing team than a group of gamers but its still good and fun to play

i reckon ill play it through maybe 5 or 6 times then mod it a bit before i get bored and never pick it up it again, i doubt it will have the same long lasting charm as fnv and f3 did

Yeah for sure. Doesn't come close to NV in terms of story. Gameplay is great and all but RPG feeling is missing badly. GECK cant come sooner.

I already know my PC can't run it otherwise I'd have it modded and use commands, but I did a play through of it on PS4 and I was honestly tired of it before finishing. I do agree in feeling like it was designed by a marketing team and the lack of RPG elements are disappointing, but it does have some awesome pros, it's not all cons. The combat and animations were quite enjoyable as well as the prewar beginning and some aspects of settlement building, but that was more frustrating than it was worth putting time into.

Regardless, I look forward to the DLCs and hopefully they won't be disappointing as well.

I felt that it was a little bit of a let down, it felt very strange to play, I can't describe it, but it felt more like bioshock than fallout for some reason. I guess it's the looting, that was very similar. I was also disappointed by the map size, it felt pretty small compared to the others to me for some reason.

Though there is disappointment in terms of RPG features and mechanics, I haven't found a reason to call the game bad or disappointing at all. I am mostly excited to move on to modding it. The New Vegas scene was interesting, but I could never get real depth with my mods in it due to the engine. I'm glad to see Bethesda take the features Obsidian implemented and better them, as well as the mod-inspired features.

I wish they didn't make looting work like in Bioshock, like Keevs said, 'cause that was obviously done for casual gamers who have the FPS disease who usually also have short attention spans. Not that we won't get use to it, nor is it bad 'cause we still have the inventory. It's a placebo feature, luckily.

As for everything else, I'm glad I've found mods to correct Beth's oversights(like unwanted/unintended interaction outcomes due to the inadequately-informing dialogue choices), and I'm hoping we get more RPG'ish mods.

Overall, I don't think I could be disappointed by it.

Hey, you don't die or are unable to play the game at the end(?). They did right, there !

Yeah, well I think, the F4 is nothing compared to Fnv or F3. I like the settlement system (especially with Mods) and the new Crafting System, that makes searching for weapons unnecessary, cause crafting is waaaay better. Like many people said before, the roleplay aspect is pretty non-existing imo (e.g. I can't play the bad guy anymore). I'm hoping for Modders to fix some things in that game with the Geck, and that they do new quests. I have like 150hours in this game and did every sidequest and all the main quest, it's not that big. I played over 200hours ttw and still have some unfinished (non-mod) quests

I feel that Fallout 4 is definitely a good game, Bethedsa have always geared their Fallout games more on the FPS side of the fence than the RPG side, Lets hope that if they let Obsidian make another game they'll give them more than 1 year Dev time.

@"Keevs" I agree with you. The whole time I kept telling myself I feel like it's missing something very important. It also lacked excitement for me after about 2 hours.

@"AdayDr1en" When it comes to modding, it is definitely more intriguing than NV and 3 with the new engine, but I don't think I'd honestly do another vanilla play through. With modding, the settlement building is amazing, I can't even imagine all the things you could make, but Bethesda should't have to rely on Modders to get me excited about that. I didn't feel like I needed mods for years when NV came out with the exception of bug fixing and textures etc.

It's definitely isn't a "bad game" it's just not what Fallout should be in my opinion.

Fallout 4 isn't a bad game at all. I think there were a few things that they missed the mark on, but overall it's a fun game. Though I have to say, the lack of originality in faction quests was a bit disappointing. That and (as dark as it is) the lack of slavery and slavers in the Commonwealth is a bit odd in my opinion. Raiders and generic douches of the Wasteland are still around so how is it that this issue wasn't addressed? I'm not saying I endorse it or want it, I'm just saying that it's odd that there wasn't any inclusion whatsoever. I mean, it is a staple of Fallout's wasteland after all...

I'll air an opinion that is a bit more on the subjective side and that I haven't seen brought up yet.

Art Style
I really think with the loss of Adam Adamowicz, the artistic lead behind fallout 3, that Bethesda lost some creative inspiration. I loved the concept art for fallout 3, its grungy, dystopian, David Lynch film aesthetic.(If you feel inclined google the art it's really wonderful) . So many of the weapons feel out of place, such as the upgraded sniper rifle with a Recoil Compensated stock. The recoil compensating stocks all look ridiculously out of place as well. I find the institutes aesthetic off putting as well.

Humor
Fallout 4 has very little humor. I can't remember a decently funny quest or random encounter besides Hancock's actions. I can easily bring up a great example of humor in Fallout:NV. Wand Dang Atomic Wrangler, I'm 90% certain anyone who completed the quest can remember it. You find prostitutes for the Atomic Wrangler, like Beatrix a BDSM loving cowboy ghoul, and Fisto, a sec robot. After you get Fisto you get the option to test his functions, and if you have Wild Wild Wasteland, you get attacked by a gang of old women after you leave the building you found him in. Once you turn the quest in to Garret you get a terrific bit of dialogue where he tries to hide his excitement about finding a pre-war sex robot. That's just one small quest. I would mention OWB but it would hardly be far since Fallout 4 has no dlc yet, and comedy was a large theme in that dlc. There are no quests as funny or as memorable as the ones in NV.

Feel free to argue with me about the aesthetic changes and or humor of the game, these are just my opinions after all.

Not worth the wait, simply

If somebody were to ask me for a recommendation, i would offer them fallout 4, as i personally loved the main quest line but it just seemed to be fallout 3's plot kind of swapped over.