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PostSubject: FALLOUT 4 Practically [CONFIRMED] apparently {MUST WATCH NEWS}   fallout 4 - FALLOUT 4 Practically [CONFIRMED] apparently  {MUST WATCH NEWS} EmptyTue May 12, 2015 3:38 am

videos by mrmattyplays
watch this video first





remember the second video above is a separate story

videos by Apoqsi




closer look at the pictures involved
Spoiler:

i wouldn't post this if i didn't see enough liable proof when i seen destructoid acknowledge a broken NDA i couldn't help but spread the word

destructoid apparently where told to remove the article but refused as they where under no contract obligation

polygon.com news article
http://www.polygon.com/2015/5/11/8586143/fallout-4-trailer-from-del-toros-studio-may-be-incoming-according-to

Gamesradar.com goes into a little more detail of the story
http://www.gamesradar.com/fallout-4-confirmed-trailer/

just attempted to look at the article destuctoid had posted and got this seems a bit dodgy to me (its back up now)
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I want to believe. I really do. But I'll take everything with a grain of salt until I see an actual conformation on Fallout 4 along with an official cinematic trailer to accompany it.

Yeah that is pretty odd if there is no game coming down the pipeline, so that must mean good things for the future here...I will jump for joy if we get fallout 4 announced. I'll keep an eye out for any new news myself too, thx. Thumbs Up

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Sentience wrote:
I want to believe. I really do. But I'll take everything with a grain of salt until I see an actual conformation on Fallout 4 along with an official cinematic trailer to accompany it.


i agree buddy but bethesda apparently told destructoid to take it down and they refused as they have no bound contract ill look up more new articles
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I'm so fuckin stoked for June!!!! As for the second video, that pretty much sums up society today. Anybody is willing to do anything for thirty seconds of fame. I'm glad we might see a cinematic trailer for Fallout 4 at E3. It's been way too damn long.

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im hyped too as this is the most solid proof we have ill keep updating the topic as i get more news look at the bottom of the topic for article links
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*takes deep breath* The internet better not be messing with me, I will be so pissed if there is no announcement of FO4 after all these vids popping up with what seems to be concrete proof.

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Really hard not to get hyped for this but I'm not boarding the hype train just yet, not after what happened with the survivor 2299. I really really want another fallout to come out and all speculations and rumors seem to be saying the next Bethesda game is going to be Fo4 I'm going to keep a level headed about this until its been confirmed by Bethesda

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When this game is officially confirmed the world will cry in joy and happiness. Even I can't resist the hype train for Bethesda's Conference, who wouldn't. The struggle men is to real.

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Eh. I don't really get the big hype around this story.

They're going to make a new Fallout game - even if it's not going to be called Fallout 4. Why? Because the series is still really profitable.

It will only be a matter of time before they announce a new Fallout game. I, for one, am content to just "chill" until then.

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OMG OMG! But June? Thats like, next month? Isnt that a bit too early?
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@stromborn, that is when they are holding their conference a day before the start of E3, so I wouldn't think it's too early. This could also all be one heck of a publicity stunt by Bethesda.

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Oh man that would be great to get some info. Just a little clip even. I hope its for real, they are torturing us now.
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Can't wait to see what happens at e3 and hopefully this news sticks and where provided with a cinematic trailer which Is looking more and more likely
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But also...Sometimes trailers are released 9-10 months before the game. How many times have you seen an epic commercial or trailer, start drooling and twitching only to have the trailer end with "Coming in Fall of NEXT EFFIN' YEAR!
But anyway...I'm super stoked!

@falloutveteran20 "just attempted to look at the article destuctoid had posted and got this seems a bit dodgy to me"
It's back up.

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I hope this is true. I really look forward to fallout 4.

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I kind of had confirmation before this when Shoddycast released the last Fallout Lore video of the season on youtube, they had the actor who voices threedog as an invited guest and they hinted heavily at a Fallout 4 tittle being released soon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkxWd1QlO9I

While I'm glad it's gonna happen I am sad about two things:

1st- I dislike the fact that some of these industry professionals will get in trouble due to the NDA being broken, which is kind of unfair imo, since it would just be the hype train wrecking people in the way to release if you know what I mean.

2nd- I really hope the release date doesn't come sooner than 2016 or my career will be ruined. closed eyes smile
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Timulika wrote:
But also...Sometimes trailers are released 9-10 months before the game. How many times have you seen an epic commercial or trailer, start drooling and twitching only to have the trailer end with "Coming in Fall of NEXT EFFIN' YEAR!
But anyway...I'm super stoked!

@falloutveteran20 "just attempted to look at the article destuctoid had posted and got this seems a bit dodgy to me"
It's back up.

yeah i noticed it was back up a little while ago i still think its abit weird i updated the topic to say its back up Smile

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eric todd delums is a brilliant voice actor he also voice acts for the show "nasa's secret files"i think thats whats its called and tbh i have a feeling it will be this year as the usual fallout release date frame is fall Smile
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Very unlikely the game is shipping this year. Oblivion, Skyrim, etc were all revealed well over a year after their reveals, I doubt Fallout 4 is close enough to being complete that they could release it this fall. Remember, they were working on Skyrim DLC until like 2 years ago, at which point they announced that they were moving on to 'what comes next'. So Fallout 4 probably hasn't been in full-blown development nearly as long as some of us may think.
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AHHHHH I'm so damn excited just to see even a teaser or a trailer!
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I want Fallout 4 so bad that I can taste it...Kind of a metallic taste...hmmm...or maybe it's a brain tumor. With that said...I will believe it when I see it!

A german game website report here...a LinkedIn profile update there....a 30 minutue behind closed doors playable demo rumor from who knows where. Unless Bethesda are completely brain-dead...they have to know the fans and the world want a new Fallout. I think that it will definitely happen....but it will be at least a year away...Fall of 2016 would be my best guess. I would prefer it sooner...but I also want it to be polished and not a broken glitchy mess.
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