| A problem with Drag's NPC Overhaul (Poor Pete!) | |
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paynexkiller
Posts : 12 Join date : 2019-02-10
| Subject: A problem with Drag's NPC Overhaul (Poor Pete!) Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:51 pm | |
| Hey! Looking for some help sorting out the NPC overhaul with a couple people.
https://imgur.com/9wI5Qwr https://imgur.com/MFWDOkA https://imgur.com/VgVQX1A
It's clear I'm missing something, though Doc Mitchell looks perfect.
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CommunistDragon
Posts : 209 Join date : 2019-04-05 Age : 24 Location : Frankfurt Germany
Character sheet Name: Neo Faction: Highest Bidder Level: 25
| Subject: Re: A problem with Drag's NPC Overhaul (Poor Pete!) Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:07 pm | |
| Can you make a post of your load order? Also do you have any other mods that impact character appearance like FCO or NVR3? |
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paynexkiller
Posts : 12 Join date : 2019-02-10
| Subject: Re: A problem with Drag's NPC Overhaul (Poor Pete!) Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:14 pm | |
| - CommunistDragon wrote:
- Can you make a post of your load order? Also do you have any other mods that impact character appearance like FCO or NVR3?
Here's my list. - Spoiler:
FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm HonestHearts.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm CaravanPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm GreatKhanGreatOverhaul.esm DragsVGUArmorBase.esm Military Explansion Program.esm ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm NVStripOpen.esm Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.esm Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm 47 Weather Redux.esp DragsNPCOverhaul.esp RaiderOverhaulPreview.esp BoomersGoBoom.esp BrotherhoodReforged.esp TheLegionWillRyse.esp Rapture Imports FNV.esp Drags20ArmorPack.esp FO4 Power Armors - FNV Standard Edition.esp F04_GorePort.esp GreatKhanGreatOverhaul.esp EnhancedGrass_NoVL.esp Project Reality Footsteps.esp Mateba.esp T60.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp UnlimitedCompanions.esp Dying Light_Jade Aldemir.esp MWR1+2.esp Project13 - Populated Wasteland.esp StripOpenMain.esp Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Leveled.Lists.esp Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Cheat.Cabinet.esp Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Honest.Hearts.Grunt.Patch.esp The Weapon Mod Menu.esp Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp ILO - PipBoy Light.esp 47 ENB Weather.esp JIP MiniMap.esp
Total active plugins: 48 Total plugins: 50 |
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CommunistDragon
Posts : 209 Join date : 2019-04-05 Age : 24 Location : Frankfurt Germany
Character sheet Name: Neo Faction: Highest Bidder Level: 25
| Subject: Re: A problem with Drag's NPC Overhaul (Poor Pete!) Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:35 pm | |
| I suspect that it’s a conflict with another esp. can you try moving npc overhaul to the bottom of the load order, not below the weather mod though |
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paynexkiller
Posts : 12 Join date : 2019-02-10
| Subject: Re: A problem with Drag's NPC Overhaul (Poor Pete!) Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:14 pm | |
| - CommunistDragon wrote:
- I suspect that it’s a conflict with another esp. can you try moving npc overhaul to the bottom of the load order, not below the weather mod though
Sandy stilll looks like a weird spider woman, which is weird. Wonder if that's a body issue? |
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CommunistDragon
Posts : 209 Join date : 2019-04-05 Age : 24 Location : Frankfurt Germany
Character sheet Name: Neo Faction: Highest Bidder Level: 25
| Subject: Re: A problem with Drag's NPC Overhaul (Poor Pete!) Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:16 pm | |
| Have you tried using a merged patch? Are you using a mod manager? If so perhaps you can move the mod further down to overwrite any conflicts? |
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paynexkiller
Posts : 12 Join date : 2019-02-10
| Subject: Re: A problem with Drag's NPC Overhaul (Poor Pete!) Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:38 pm | |
| - CommunistDragon wrote:
- Have you tried using a merged patch? Are you using a mod manager? If so perhaps you can move the mod further down to overwrite any conflicts?
What did you have in mind for a merged patch? I'm using FMM (0.13.21) atm. |
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CommunistDragon
Posts : 209 Join date : 2019-04-05 Age : 24 Location : Frankfurt Germany
Character sheet Name: Neo Faction: Highest Bidder Level: 25
| Subject: Re: A problem with Drag's NPC Overhaul (Poor Pete!) Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:01 pm | |
| Through FNVEdit, you can create a merge patch to resolve conflicts between plugins. I believe Gopher has a great video that covers it |
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paynexkiller
Posts : 12 Join date : 2019-02-10
| Subject: Re: A problem with Drag's NPC Overhaul (Poor Pete!) Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:23 pm | |
| - CommunistDragon wrote:
- Through FNVEdit, you can create a merge patch to resolve conflicts between plugins. I believe Gopher has a great video that covers it
Watched Gopher's video but it's not super clear as nothing stands out. |
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Alfaz
Posts : 147 Join date : 2017-07-15 Location : Somewhere west of Nevada
| Subject: Re: A problem with Drag's NPC Overhaul (Poor Pete!) Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:59 pm | |
| a Merge might not fix this and could introduce other issues if not done correctly. This is most likely a load order issue. All of those overhauls should be loaded last(above weather mods like someone else pointed out). The way FNV loads plugins, you want the ESP mods that make the biggest changes or added content loaded lower. This way, all the other plugins that might overide them, get loaded first, and lastly the big ones to override all. ESMs will stay at the top of your load order because they need to be there to provide the framework for mods that require them. ANy patches you download should always be placed after/lower in your load order than the mods they are patching. I reccommend using MO2 to keep track of your load priorities, which vortex and nmm suck at.
If you still have a problem, look for easy petes textures in archiveinvalidation.txt and see if your archives are intact. _________________ so what i am supposed to do with this? Eat it?
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paynexkiller
Posts : 12 Join date : 2019-02-10
| Subject: Re: A problem with Drag's NPC Overhaul (Poor Pete!) Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:38 pm | |
| - Alfaz wrote:
- a Merge might not fix this and could introduce other issues if not done correctly. This is most likely a load order issue. All of those overhauls should be loaded last(above weather mods like someone else pointed out). The way FNV loads plugins, you want the ESP mods that make the biggest changes or added content loaded lower. This way, all the other plugins that might overide them, get loaded first, and lastly the big ones to override all. ESMs will stay at the top of your load order because they need to be there to provide the framework for mods that require them. ANy patches you download should always be placed after/lower in your load order than the mods they are patching. I reccommend using MO2 to keep track of your load priorities, which vortex and nmm suck at.
If you still have a problem, look for easy petes textures in archiveinvalidation.txt and see if your archives are intact. Decided to continue forward and unfortunately... https://imgur.com/BjTN4kd https://imgur.com/gO9LWFV Yeah, I have no idea what's casued this. What could I reinstall? What could fix these weird problems? |
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CommunistDragon
Posts : 209 Join date : 2019-04-05 Age : 24 Location : Frankfurt Germany
Character sheet Name: Neo Faction: Highest Bidder Level: 25
| Subject: Re: A problem with Drag's NPC Overhaul (Poor Pete!) Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:46 pm | |
| Try opening FNVEdit and see if there's anything conflicting with the npcs? It should have multiple columns of all the mods conflicting with each unique NPC. Also you need to look over your load order. Just noticed that you have two weather mods active. Project13 - Populated Wasteland.esp could also be the cause of these problems too. Can you post the new load order? Since If NPC overhaul was at the bottom, this shouldve been fixed. Unless you have any textures/meshes that are conflicting and overwriting NPC overhaul. Thats why you need Mod Organizer 2, you can arrange the order of which files overwrite what with little to 0 risk of completely breaking your game. |
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paynexkiller
Posts : 12 Join date : 2019-02-10
| Subject: Re: A problem with Drag's NPC Overhaul (Poor Pete!) Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:03 pm | |
| - CommunistDragon wrote:
- Try opening FNVEdit and see if there's anything conflicting with the npcs? It should have multiple columns of all the mods conflicting with each unique NPC. Also you need to look over your load order. Just noticed that you have two weather mods active. Project13 - Populated Wasteland.esp could also be the cause of these problems too. Can you post the new load order? Since If NPC overhaul was at the bottom, this shouldve been fixed. Unless you have any textures/meshes that are conflicting and overwriting NPC overhaul. Thats why you need Mod Organizer 2, you can arrange the order of which files overwrite what with little to 0 risk of completely breaking your game.
I'm assuming this is roughly what you're after? https://imgur.com/BxydTGn Also modlist order: - Spoiler:
FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm HonestHearts.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm CaravanPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm GreatKhanGreatOverhaul.esm TLD_Travelers.esm Functional Post Game Ending.esm Th3OverseerCore.esm DragsVGUArmorBase.esm Military Explansion Program.esm ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm NVStripOpen.esm Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.esm Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm oHUD.esm FreesideOpen.esm DustydistanceNV.esp FreesideOpenPatch.esp Inventory Search.esp JustVanillaSprint.esp Immersive Hit Reactions.esp No-PipBoy-in-Power-Armor.esp LootMenu.esp 47 Weather Redux.esp Rapture Imports FNV.esp Drags20ArmorPack.esp FO4 Power Armors - FNV Standard Edition.esp F04_GorePort.esp GreatKhanGreatOverhaul.esp EnhancedGrass_NoVL.esp Project Reality Footsteps.esp Mateba.esp T60.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp UnlimitedCompanions.esp Dying Light_Jade Aldemir.esp MWR1+2.esp Project13 - Populated Wasteland.esp StripOpenMain.esp Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Leveled.Lists.esp Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Cheat.Cabinet.esp Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Honest.Hearts.Grunt.Patch.esp The Weapon Mod Menu.esp Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp ILO - PipBoy Light.esp DragsNPCOverhaul.esp JIP MiniMap.esp RaiderOverhaulPreview.esp BoomersGoBoom.esp BrotherhoodReforged.esp TheLegionWillRyse.esp NCROverhaul.esp 47 ENB Weather.esp ImmersivePickupSoundsFNV.esp Uncut Wasteland FSO.esp NPCs Can Miss.esp Headhunting.esp No Witnesses.esp WeightlessAmmo.esp medtektraumakit_edisleado.esp
Total active plugins: 68 Total plugins: 70
Populated Wasteland is a newer mod, it just adds more npcs right? Shouldn't mess with NPC textures? |
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Alfaz
Posts : 147 Join date : 2017-07-15 Location : Somewhere west of Nevada
| Subject: Re: A problem with Drag's NPC Overhaul (Poor Pete!) Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:11 pm | |
| Open FNVedit with all your mods. I had all these issues when i had AWOP installed. this is because they both edit the same records. this would also be the case if you have ANYTHING that affects ANY record that pertains to that actor. Like i said in my previous post, your load order is the predominant issue. If you place the drags overhauls at the bottom of the list above your weather mod, you should see improvement. _________________ so what i am supposed to do with this? Eat it?
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CommunistDragon
Posts : 209 Join date : 2019-04-05 Age : 24 Location : Frankfurt Germany
Character sheet Name: Neo Faction: Highest Bidder Level: 25
| Subject: Re: A problem with Drag's NPC Overhaul (Poor Pete!) Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:59 pm | |
| - Alfaz wrote:
- Open FNVedit with all your mods. I had all these issues when i had AWOP installed. this is because they both edit the same records. this would also be the case if you have ANYTHING that affects ANY record that pertains to that actor. Like i said in my previous post, your load order is the predominant issue. If you place the drags overhauls at the bottom of the list above your weather mod, you should see improvement.
As I said before, that should solve the problem |
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phatyoshi
Posts : 109 Join date : 2018-12-06
Character sheet Name: Faction: Level:
| Subject: Re: A problem with Drag's NPC Overhaul (Poor Pete!) Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:28 am | |
| I had this issue. Here's my fix: in your fallout.prefs.ini just above [Display] there should be 'bLoadFaceGenHeadEGTFiles=0'. Change 0 to 1. If you're using a mod manager like MO2 make sure that you change this within the manager's ini editor or it will overwrite.
bLoadFaceGenHeadEGTFiles has something to do with the coloration of NPCs and I think Drag enables it for his mods (either way that was my fix). If changing the fallout.prefs.ini does nothing then change it in fallout.ini instead, which is identical. Also remember that loading the default launcher may reset your ini settings to default so load through something like NVSE instead
edit: this also fixes all other NPCs affected, like Sunny Smiles's face problem or Cliff Briscoe's dark textures |
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Arcades
Posts : 373 Join date : 2017-11-19 Age : 23 Location : The Fort
Character sheet Name: Noah Faction: L E G I O N Level: 25
| Subject: Re: A problem with Drag's NPC Overhaul (Poor Pete!) Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:48 pm | |
| - phatyoshi wrote:
- I had this issue. Here's my fix: in your fallout.prefs.ini just above [Display] there should be 'bLoadFaceGenHeadEGTFiles=0'. Change 0 to 1. If you're using a mod manager like MO2 make sure that you change this within the manager's ini editor or it will overwrite.
bLoadFaceGenHeadEGTFiles has something to do with the coloration of NPCs and I think Drag enables it for his mods (either way that was my fix). If changing the fallout.prefs.ini does nothing then change it in fallout.ini instead, which is identical. Also remember that loading the default launcher may reset your ini settings to default so load through something like NVSE instead
edit: this also fixes all other NPCs affected, like Sunny Smiles's face problem or Cliff Briscoe's dark textures I can say that this fix is what I used a while ago and it fixed all of the NPCs for me. This is a common enough question that it surprises me that the solution is so hard to find, I remember it taking a while to figure out that it was just a quick ini edit _________________ |
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paynexkiller
Posts : 12 Join date : 2019-02-10
| Subject: Re: A problem with Drag's NPC Overhaul (Poor Pete!) Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:25 pm | |
| - phatyoshi wrote:
- I had this issue. Here's my fix: in your fallout.prefs.ini just above [Display] there should be 'bLoadFaceGenHeadEGTFiles=0'. Change 0 to 1. If you're using a mod manager like MO2 make sure that you change this within the manager's ini editor or it will overwrite.
bLoadFaceGenHeadEGTFiles has something to do with the coloration of NPCs and I think Drag enables it for his mods (either way that was my fix). If changing the fallout.prefs.ini does nothing then change it in fallout.ini instead, which is identical. Also remember that loading the default launcher may reset your ini settings to default so load through something like NVSE instead
edit: this also fixes all other NPCs affected, like Sunny Smiles's face problem or Cliff Briscoe's dark textures Cheers! https://imgur.com/9KYSXHZ https://imgur.com/42CgsI4 Close enough! |
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phatyoshi
Posts : 109 Join date : 2018-12-06
Character sheet Name: Faction: Level:
| Subject: Re: A problem with Drag's NPC Overhaul (Poor Pete!) Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:33 pm | |
| - paynexkiller wrote:
- phatyoshi wrote:
- I had this issue. Here's my fix: in your fallout.prefs.ini just above [Display] there should be 'bLoadFaceGenHeadEGTFiles=0'. Change 0 to 1. If you're using a mod manager like MO2 make sure that you change this within the manager's ini editor or it will overwrite.
bLoadFaceGenHeadEGTFiles has something to do with the coloration of NPCs and I think Drag enables it for his mods (either way that was my fix). If changing the fallout.prefs.ini does nothing then change it in fallout.ini instead, which is identical. Also remember that loading the default launcher may reset your ini settings to default so load through something like NVSE instead
edit: this also fixes all other NPCs affected, like Sunny Smiles's face problem or Cliff Briscoe's dark textures Cheers!
https://imgur.com/9KYSXHZ https://imgur.com/42CgsI4
Close enough! No problem at all, have fun with that |
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phatyoshi
Posts : 109 Join date : 2018-12-06
Character sheet Name: Faction: Level:
| Subject: Re: A problem with Drag's NPC Overhaul (Poor Pete!) Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:35 pm | |
| - Arcades wrote:
- phatyoshi wrote:
- I had this issue. Here's my fix: in your fallout.prefs.ini just above [Display] there should be 'bLoadFaceGenHeadEGTFiles=0'. Change 0 to 1. If you're using a mod manager like MO2 make sure that you change this within the manager's ini editor or it will overwrite.
bLoadFaceGenHeadEGTFiles has something to do with the coloration of NPCs and I think Drag enables it for his mods (either way that was my fix). If changing the fallout.prefs.ini does nothing then change it in fallout.ini instead, which is identical. Also remember that loading the default launcher may reset your ini settings to default so load through something like NVSE instead
edit: this also fixes all other NPCs affected, like Sunny Smiles's face problem or Cliff Briscoe's dark textures I can say that this fix is what I used a while ago and it fixed all of the NPCs for me. This is a common enough question that it surprises me that the solution is so hard to find, I remember it taking a while to figure out that it was just a quick ini edit Literally this, it took me some digging the first time I encountered the bug. I found the answer in the middle of a large thread, even though the solution was actually so simple |
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