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Need some help with Fallout 4 issues and load-order. | | Need some help with Fallout 4 issues and load-order. | |
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waster
Posts : 5
Join date : 2018-09-07
 | | Subject: Need some help with Fallout 4 issues and load-order. Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:02 am | |
| Hey there everyone, I've recently started to get back into fallout and started a new playthrough of Fallout 4. The main issue I'm having is severe freezing and stuttering, It seems to be random as I can be inside an interior or walking through the wasteland. The second issue I'm having is the game crashing when I attack certain enemies. Any help you can provide is appreciated, I'll post my load order below. I know the fix is probably something really simple but I can't seem to get the game working well again. Thanks again for any help. Load Order - Spoiler:
0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 SettlementKeywords.esm
8 8 ArmorKeywords.esm
9 9 Homemaker.esm
10 a Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
11 b Retro_Style.esm
254 FE 0 CROSS_CoA.esl
12 c XDI.esm
13 d JonsMod.esm
14 e DamageThresholdFramework.esm
15 f Damage Threshold.esm
16 10 BostonFPSFixAIO.esp
17 11 Rusty Face Fix.esp
18 12 Performance Of The Gods - Extreme - DLCs.esp
19 13 Insignificant Object Remover.esp
20 14 GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp
21 15 SettlementMenuManager.esp
22 16 SignsOfTheTimesCategorized.esp
23 17 AIO SS.esp
24 18 CheatTerminal.esp
25 19 Better Vendor Stalls.esp
26 1a ProperStoreAnimation.esp
27 1b Crimsomrider's Immersive Market.esp
28 1c VendorVariety.esp
29 1d Settlement_Markers.esp
30 1e Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp
31 1f CombatZoneRestored.esp
32 20 Keep Radiants In Commonwealth.esp
33 21 PrestonNoRadiant.esp
34 22 FaceMaxson.esp
35 23 Crimsomrider's Transparent Cleanroom Suit.esp
36 24 SlowTime.esp
37 25 Classic VATS.esp
38 26 Live Dismemberment - BrutalNoHeadshots.esp
Live Dismemberment - LiebermodeNoHeadshots.esp
Live Dismemberment - RegularNoHeadshots.esp
Be Exceptional - Uninstall.esp
39 27 Be Exceptional.esp
40 28 EasyHacking.esp
41 29 Tougher Vertibirds.esp
42 2a Vertibird Gatling Laser_Both.esp
43 2b Lasers Have No Recoil.esp
44 2c QuickTrade.esp
45 2d Max Performance - All Interiors - All DLC.esp
46 2e crx_HammerTime_Sanctuary.esp
47 2f WastelandCodex.esp
48 30 EveryonesBestFriend.esp
49 31 Edit_Hancock.esp
50 32 More Smarter Companions Mod.esp
51 33 MSCM Hancock facepatch mod.esp
52 34 Companion Infinite Ammo.esp
53 35 Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp
54 36 Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp
55 37 Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp
56 38 Vivid Waters.esp
57 39 Radiant Clouds and Fogs.esp
58 3a DiamondCityAutoClose.esp
59 3b Brotherhood of Steel Kit.esp
60 3c CROSS_GoreCrits.esp
61 3d CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp
62 3e Verdant_Institute.esp
63 3f InstituteSky.esp
64 40 DiamondCitySWAT - Vanilla Helmets Version.esp
65 41 CommonwealthConifersREDUX.esp
66 42 TP-Redux.esp
67 43 InstituteNoFog.esp
68 44 No 3D Objects - All DLC + Unoffical Patch.esp
69 45 More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
70 46 Diamond City Enhanced.esp
71 47 Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp
72 48 FriendlyEasyCityDowns.esp
73 49 NeighborWatch.esp
74 4a Goodfellow's Goodneighbor Defences.esp
75 4b Goodneighbor Loft.esp
76 4c GoodneighborRadio.esp
77 4d TrainBar.esp
78 4e WelcometoGoodneighbor.esp
79 4f DiamondCitywithoutTrash0.5.esp
DiamondCitywithoutTrash0.21.esp
80 50 Guards.esp
81 51 YouAndWhatArmy1_1.esp
82 52 AA LMSE_FarHarbor.esp
83 53 AA Lots More Settlers and Enemies.esp
84 54 ArchUniqueSettlers.esp
85 55 CBBE.esp
86 56 ANiceOakTree Hairs.esp
87 57 FortHaganInstitute.esp
88 58 Animated Drinking.esp
89 59 Smoke-able Cigars.esp
90 5a KSHairdos.esp
91 5b Ghouls Revamped.esp
92 5c strongheight.esp
93 5d Synths Revamped.esp
94 5e The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
95 5f SSNPC - DCResidentsAIO.esp
96 60 SSNPC - KelloggNEW.esp
97 61 SSNPC - Minutemen.esp
98 62 LooksMenu.esp
99 63 LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
100 64 Lots More Facial Hair.esp
101 65 Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp
102 66 Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp
103 67 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
104 68 45autoPistol.esp
105 69 SigSauer127.esp
106 6a 9mmPistol.esp
107 6b F4NV-AMR.esp
108 6c BullpupBozar.esp
109 6d DP_CaravanShotgun.esp
110 6e CattleProdV01.esp
111 6f ClassicSniper.esp
112 70 DSR 50.esp
113 71 N99.esp
114 72 GreaseGunSMG.esp
115 73 HuntingShotgun.esp
116 74 HuntingRevolver.esp
117 75 LAER.esp
118 76 Mauser.esp
119 77 MG42.esp
120 78 InstitutePistol.esp
121 79 WD_10mm_Pistol.esp
122 7a WD_Combat.esp
123 7b WD_44.esp
124 7c wd_huntingrifle.esp
125 7d AKSounds.esp
126 7e WD_SMG.esp
127 7f RiotShotgun.esp
128 80 R91AssaultRifle.esp
129 81 10mmSMG.esp
130 82 M1Garand.esp
131 83 M1Garand - AWKCR.esp
132 84 Mosin.esp
133 85 Family Mauser.esp
134 86 CorvalhoWidowShotgun.esp
135 87 Tomacuzi9.esp
136 88 VarmintRifle.esp
137 89 VarmintRifle - AWKCR.esp
138 8a DA44.esp
139 8b DAWestern44.esp
140 8c NukaWorldRifleClassicStock.esp
141 8d F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp
142 8e F4NVServiceRifleRedux127mmPatch.esp
143 8f AEAR01.esp
144 90 BumperSwordStandalone.esp
145 91 GravityFist.esp
146 92 MMsLaserRCW.esp
147 93 Plasma Saber.esp
148 94 WattzLaserGun.esp
149 95 MP153.esp
150 96 YK42B.esp
151 97 AutomatronSecuritron.esp
152 98 Laser Musket Mods.esp
153 99 UsefulCrank.esp
154 9a UsefulCrank_LMO.esp
155 9b rings1.02.esp
156 9c Acies Combat Armor.esp
157 9d Acies Lingerie.esp
158 9e Project Blue Blood.esp
159 9f Army_Officers.esp
160 a0 Benny's Suit - Standalone.esp
161 a1 Lootable_Redcoat_Mannequins_Minutemen_Replacer_USA.esp
162 a2 Lootable_Redcoat_Mannequins.esp
163 a3 FO3VaultSuit.esp
164 a4 Classic Vault-Tec Security Armor.esp
165 a5 BoS Pilot Outfit Fix.esp
166 a6 Retro_Style_World_Distribution.esp
167 a7 ngh_ww2fatiguesoverhaul.esp
168 a8 Heavy BoS.esp
169 a9 Rangergearnew.esp
170 aa Randomized DC Guard Outfits.esp
171 ab Ty's CAUniform.esp
172 ac TDUlyssesOutfit.esp
173 ad CourserCrusher.esp
174 ae Consistent Power Armor Overhaul.esp
175 af Brotherhood Power Armor Overhaul.esp
176 b0 BPAO - Automatron Patch.esp
177 b1 InstitutePowerArmor.esp
178 b2 PAMAP.esp
179 b3 The Train.esp
180 b4 Armorsmith Extended.esp
181 b5 Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp
*(edited 1 time by jacoboriley, March 26, 2019, 7:51 pm. Added spoiler tags for load order) |
| | | | Lilkrasdog
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| | Subject: Re: Need some help with Fallout 4 issues and load-order. Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:50 pm | |
| You may need to manually reorganize your load order. I noticed some of the mods Like Diamond city expansion, and Combat zone restored need to be placed at the bottom of your load order. Other than that you may have to many mods installed. |
| | | | waster
Posts : 5
Join date : 2018-09-07
| | Subject: Re: Need some help with Fallout 4 issues and load-order. Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:39 pm | |
| @"Lilkrasdog"
Thanks for the reply, I'll move them to the bottom of my load order and see if it helps.
I've removed quite a few mods I didn't need since I posted and fixed the crashing when attacking issue, it's all just kind of strange since I used to play with a large amount of mods and had very few issues. I'm thinking maybe it's a specific mod causing it. |
| | | | Guest
Guest
| | Subject: Re: Need some help with Fallout 4 issues and load-order. Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:59 pm | |
| All your esm mods should be above your esp's as well. Do you use LOOT or manually sort? I don't use LOOT, but if you're having trouble with a manual load order it might benefit you as a starting point. You can go all the way to 255 plugins, but it is not recommended if you are not familiar with and using FO4Edit. Is FO4Edit something you're familiar with?
Also, I put your load order between spoiler tags for you to save space. It is the recommended way for posting these large lists here |
| | | | waster
Posts : 5
Join date : 2018-09-07
| | Subject: Re: Need some help with Fallout 4 issues and load-order. Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:23 am | |
| - jacoboriley wrote:
- All your esm mods should be above your esp's as well. Do you use LOOT or manually sort? I don't use LOOT, but if you're having trouble with a manual load order it might benefit you as a starting point. You can go all the way to 255 plugins, but it is not recommended if you are not familiar with and using FO4Edit. Is FO4Edit something you're familiar with?
Also, I put your load order between spoiler tags for you to save space. It is the recommended way for posting these large lists here I have used LOOT in the past and have it installed but it doesn't seem to do anything when I sort plugins, everything stays the same. I've been following guides to sort it so far, also, thanks for putting everything in spoilers. I've used FO4Edit a couple times so I'm not really familiar with it. Here's my new/current load-order, everything seems to be running better but the game's still freezing for around 10-20 seconds when I load a saved game, enter a interior, and sometimes just randomly. - Spoiler:
0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 ArmorKeywords.esm
8 8 SettlementKeywords.esm
9 9 Homemaker.esm
10 a Retro_Style.esm
11 b XDI.esm
12 c DamageThresholdFramework.esm
13 d Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
14 e BostonFPSFixAIO.esp
15 f CheatTerminal.esp
16 10 Max Performance - All Interiors - All DLC.esp
17 11 Performance Of The Gods - Extreme - DLCs.esp
18 12 Better Vendor Stalls.esp
19 13 Crimsomrider's Immersive Market.esp
20 14 Settlement_Markers.esp
21 15 VendorVariety.esp
22 16 GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp
23 17 SignsOfTheTimesCategorized.esp
24 18 AIO SS.esp
25 19 ProperStoreAnimation.esp
26 1a Lasers Have No Recoil.esp
27 1b EasyHacking.esp
28 1c LooksMenu.esp
29 1d LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
30 1e QuickTrade.esp
31 1f SlowTime.esp
32 20 Classic VATS.esp
33 21 Rusty Face Fix.esp
34 22 DV-Durable Vertibirds.esp
35 23 Vertibird Gatling Laser_Both.esp
36 24 Live Dismemberment - BrutalNoHeadshots.esp
Live Dismemberment - LiebermodeNoHeadshots.esp
Live Dismemberment - RegularNoHeadshots.esp
37 25 crx_HammerTime_Sanctuary.esp
38 26 Companion Infinite Ammo.esp
39 27 FaceMaxson.esp
40 28 Keep Radiants In Commonwealth.esp
41 29 PrestonNoRadiant.esp
42 2a EveryonesBestFriend.esp
43 2b More Smarter Companions Mod.esp
44 2c Edit_Hancock.esp
45 2d MSCM Hancock facepatch mod.esp
46 2e Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp
47 2f Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Spring.esp
48 30 Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp
49 31 Vivid Weathers - Natural Bright.esp
50 32 Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp
51 33 Vivid Waters.esp
52 34 CROSS_GoreCrits.esp
53 35 CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp
54 36 Verdant_Institute.esp
55 37 AA Lots More Settlers and Enemies.esp
56 38 AA LMSE_FarHarbor.esp
57 39 ArchUniqueSettlers.esp
58 3a CBBE.esp
59 3b ANiceOakTree Hairs.esp
60 3c KSHairdos.esp
61 3d Lots More Facial Hair.esp
62 3e Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp
63 3f Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp
64 40 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
65 41 45autoPistol.esp
66 42 10mmSMG.esp
67 43 SigSauer127.esp
68 44 9mmPistol.esp
69 45 BullpupBozar.esp
70 46 DP_CaravanShotgun.esp
71 47 CattleProdV01.esp
72 48 ClassicSniper.esp
73 49 N99.esp
74 4a GreaseGunSMG.esp
75 4b HuntingShotgun.esp
76 4c HuntingRevolver.esp
77 4d LAER.esp
78 4e M1Garand.esp
79 4f M1Garand - AWKCR.esp
80 50 Mauser.esp
81 51 MG42.esp
82 52 InstitutePistol.esp
83 53 Mosin.esp
84 54 Family Mauser.esp
85 55 R91AssaultRifle.esp
86 56 F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp
87 57 F4NVServiceRifleRedux127mmPatch.esp
88 58 GravityFist.esp
89 59 MMsLaserRCW.esp
90 5a CorvalhoWidowShotgun.esp
91 5b Tomacuzi9.esp
92 5c VarmintRifle.esp
93 5d VarmintRifle - AWKCR.esp
94 5e WattzLaserGun.esp
95 5f YK42B.esp
96 60 MP153.esp
97 61 PAMAP.esp
98 62 Heavy BoS.esp
99 63 Randomized DC Guard Outfits.esp
100 64 TDUlyssesOutfit.esp
101 65 Lootable_Redcoat_Mannequins.esp
102 66 Lootable_Redcoat_Mannequins_Minutemen_Replacer_USA.esp
103 67 Crimsomrider's Transparent Cleanroom Suit.esp
104 68 FO3VaultSuit.esp
105 69 Retro_Style_World_Distribution.esp
106 6a ngh_ww2fatiguesoverhaul.esp
107 6b DiamondCitySWAT - Vanilla Helmets Version.esp
108 6c Acies Combat Armor.esp
109 6d Acies Lingerie.esp
110 6e Army_Officers.esp
111 6f Benny's Suit - Standalone.esp
112 70 Classic Vault-Tec Security Armor.esp
113 71 Project Blue Blood.esp
114 72 rings1.02.esp
115 73 Smoke-able Cigars.esp
116 74 Insignificant Object Remover.esp
117 75 Animated Drinking.esp
118 76 Ghouls Revamped.esp
119 77 strongheight.esp
120 78 Synths Revamped.esp
121 79 NukaWorldRifleClassicStock.esp
122 7a The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
123 7b SettlementMenuManager.esp
124 7c FriendlyEasyCityDowns.esp
125 7d DiamondCityAutoClose.esp
126 7e Guards.esp
127 7f SSNPC - DCResidentsAIO.esp
128 80 InstituteNoFog.esp
129 81 WelcometoGoodneighbor.esp
130 82 Goodneighbor Loft.esp
131 83 NeighborWatch.esp
132 84 Goodfellow's Goodneighbor Defences.esp
133 85 GoodneighborRadio.esp
134 86 More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
135 87 Armorsmith Extended.esp
136 88 WD_10mm_Pistol.esp
137 89 DA44.esp
138 8a DAWestern44.esp
139 8b WD_Combat.esp
140 8c wd_huntingrifle.esp
141 8d AKSounds.esp
142 8e WD_SMG.esp
143 8f RiotShotgun.esp
144 90 The Train.esp
145 91 InstitutePowerArmor.esp
146 92 Consistent Power Armor Overhaul.esp
147 93 Brotherhood Power Armor Overhaul.esp
148 94 BPAO - Automatron Patch.esp
149 95 SSNPC - KelloggNEW.esp
150 96 SSNPC - Minutemen.esp
151 97 CourserCrusher.esp
152 98 InstituteSky.esp
153 99 TrainBar.esp
CastleWallsRepaired 3.esp
154 9a Laser Musket Mods.esp
155 9b UsefulCrank.esp
156 9c UsefulCrank_LMO.esp
157 9d Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp
158 9e CombatZoneRestored.esp
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| | | | Guest
Guest
| | Subject: Re: Need some help with Fallout 4 issues and load-order. Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:30 am | |
| Try moving the Unofficial Patch (it counts as an esm) to just below the Nuka World esm and above Armor Keywords. It almost sound like you're having texture loading issues, but the Unofficial patch belongs higher. |
| | | | waster
Posts : 5
Join date : 2018-09-07
| | Subject: Re: Need some help with Fallout 4 issues and load-order. Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:12 am | |
| @"jacoboriley" Okay, I moved the unofficial patch below Nuka World and I think it helped a little. The stuttering and freezing has gotten better after removing mods, it's not freezing for as long now. I'm not sure If I'm allowed to post links here but if I'm not please feel free to remove it. I uploaded a YouTube video that shows my game in it's current state. There's a small hiccup running through sanctuary but there's a specific moment when approaching the soldiers at the entrance to Vault 111 that shows the kind of freeze i'm talking about, I don't know if it helps, but it might. - YouTube Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvyMKMA-5ts&feature=youtu.be
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| | | | Guest
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| | Subject: Re: Need some help with Fallout 4 issues and load-order. Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:23 am | |
| I'll give it a look later if I can. In the meantime, try deactivating a mod at a time of the one's you suspect. It is sometimes a process but very educational for modding. What mod manager are you using? I would also encourage you to look up some of the vid's on FO4Edit, such as these -
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlN8weLk86XiGXJI4DaRa1QIq1zhDpD8V
...and yes, you can post links just as I did here. There is also a youtube insert helper when you open up your text box. Look top of the window, second box right. As long as the vid doesn't violate our decency rules you should be fine. |
| | | | waster
Posts : 5
Join date : 2018-09-07
| | Subject: Re: Need some help with Fallout 4 issues and load-order. Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:46 am | |
| - jacoboriley wrote:
- I'll give it a look later if I can. In the meantime, try deactivating a mod at a time of the one's you suspect. It is sometimes a process but very educational for modding. What mod manager are you using? I would also encourage you to look up some of the vid's on FO4Edit, such as these -
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlN8weLk86XiGXJI4DaRa1QIq1zhDpD8V
...and yes, you can post links just as I did here. There is also a youtube insert helper when you open up your text box. Look top of the window, second box right. As long as the vid doesn't violate our decency rules you should be fine. Thank you for helping me with this, it's very much appreciated. After testing the mods one-by-one and using FO4Edit I've got the game working great again and fixed my issues. Thanks again you guys. |
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