So along with the dlc announcement's Bethesda said that they would also be updating survival mode, which I, for one, am more excited for than the dlc, but I want to know how you guys feel about this and whether or not you'll be using this new survival mode.

Now I might be alone on this one, but I think it's pretty scummy that Bethesda didn't release survival mode with the base game, a feature they knew people wanted and wouldn't have been hard to implement anyway, and yet now they're trying to sell it as DLC. Now if it ends up being a free update and not paid, I'll have no problem with that, but if they lock it behind a paywall, I'm gonna be a little more than irked.

GUARDian wrote:

Now I might be alone on this one, but I think it's pretty scummy that Bethesda didn't release survival mode with the base game, a feature they knew people wanted and wouldn't have been hard to implement anyway, and yet now they're trying to sell it as DLC. Now if it ends up being a free update and not paid, I'll have no problem with that, but if they lock it behind a paywall, I'm gonna be a little more than irked.

Isn't survival mode already in the game? It's just not as good as New Vegas is what I heard. Also the overhaul for survival mode is going to be free.

Abazor wrote:

GUARDian wrote:

Now I might be alone on this one, but I think it's pretty scummy that Bethesda didn't release survival mode with the base game, a feature they knew people wanted and wouldn't have been hard to implement anyway, and yet now they're trying to sell it as DLC. Now if it ends up being a free update and not paid, I'll have no problem with that, but if they lock it behind a paywall, I'm gonna be a little more than irked.

Isn't survival mode already in the game? It's just not as good as New Vegas is what I heard. Also the overhaul for survival mode is going to be free.

Well, I should clarify, there is a "survival" mode in Fallout 4, but it amounts to a higher difficulty mode. What I meant is a hardcore mode like from New Vegas. And, even though it is going to be free, I'm still salty that they didn't release it with the full game.

Abazor wrote:

Isn't survival mode already in the game? It's just not as good as New Vegas is what I heard. Also the overhaul for survival mode is going to be free.

To super clarify its Survival mode in f4 is just Very Hard(you deal 25% damage but take 200%?) with increased legendary mob spawn and slower healing

the update they are adding is like hardcore mode for NV needing to eat and sleep

GUARDian wrote:

Well, I should clarify, there is a "survival" mode in Fallout 4, but it amounts to a higher difficulty mode. What I meant is a hardcore mode like from New Vegas. And, even though it is going to be free, I'm still salty that they didn't release it with the full game.

no need to be salty man unless they charge for it then be salty as can be as for not adding it in its Beth proper not Obsidian , Beth seems to want to make a adventure game for a wide spectrum of people less rpg elements.
Ex. Weapon durability hardcore mod,stats .

GUARDian wrote:

Now I might be alone on this one, but I think it's pretty scummy that Bethesda didn't release survival mode with the base game, a feature they knew people wanted and wouldn't have been hard to implement anyway, and yet now they're trying to sell it as DLC. Now if it ends up being a free update and not paid, I'll have no problem with that, but if they lock it behind a paywall, I'm gonna be a little more than irked.

You aren't alone thinking that. I feel like they kinda rushed the game a bit to appeal to a different audience. It's still great that it's coming, but I feel it should've been in the game since launch.

I'm primarily hoping they put in a food, drink, and sleep requirement more than making it even tougher. At about level 80 on it just gets down right unfriendly with everything being a legendary charred feral ghoul, all the super mutants being warlords, and every gunner being a major, colonel, or brigadier. Easy to get around during regular play but every time a settlement gets hit it turns defense into a real bear and you end up burning through stacks of resources from repairs because...for some reason...ghouls seem to love to destroy crops, generators, and water sources more than anything in the world, a squad of 4 gunners hits harder than a platoon of T-60ed BOS, and super mutants, literally, can survive a whole mag-dump from the assault rifle with minimal adverse effects.

I'm hoping it will turn out well. Bethesda tweeted that it would have food, sleep, drink, diseases, danger, and more.

It's a shame it wasn't included at release, however.

I'm hoping it will turn out well. Bethesda tweeted that it would have food, sleep, drink, diseases, danger, and more.

It's a shame it wasn't included at release, however.

I hope they have their own HUD so that you don;t have to look at your pipboy like every 5 mins.

Despite the dislike that this is attacked to the bullet-sponge of survival mode, I'm happy that this is getting Patched in.

For Us  Masochists this is fantastic! :V

It is a bit irritating that Bethesda didn't include a proper survival mode in the first place however a free update makes it slightly forgivable. I am currently going to wait until the new survival mode releases before I start any new play-through (especially since I've been busy at the moment). I will be really happy to have an actual survival mode rather than its current "bullet sponge" iteration. I know that it will be subject to further alteration by the community and will be excited to see the gruesome difficulty changes that people may come up with. I just hope that Bethesda focuses on actual combat, weapon damage, and medical treatment in that a shot to the head yields a kill whether from or towards my character. I'm just tired of having to dump half a mag into a single non-armored target.

Like @De3ta said. It will be fantastic for masochists.

I have to agree with some of the other people in this thread, it is a shame that Bethesda did not include true survival mode in the original release of Fallout 4. I mean, they already had the basic mechanics from New Vegas.

On the other end of the spectrum, i do understand why they wanted to wait a little bit to release the new version, as it is most likely much more tuned than the New Vegas hardcore mode was. I am certain that this Survival mode will be a great experience.

Finally The survival mode was basically just hard mode but more legendarys. i cant wait

Hi, I wanted to know (I haven't found anything really reliable on the net), did Bethesda give a release date for the survival mode ?

@"darkjak94" nope just a vague "march"

@"lewismg.303" Ok thanks, I wasn't sure anymore since i haven't followed the news about it ^^