I know this really goes without saying, but would the admins be imposing a rule putting all Fallout 4 discussion after the release under a spoiler tag or something?
Considering that I might not be the only one who either doesn't have enough requirements for Fallout 4 and/or a PS4 or Xbox One.
Just a thought

I don't really get why you would click onto a topic that says something, or anything, about Fallout 4 if you don't want spoilers.

Yeah I know
Still
Some points may not be under spoilers or some people may not put it under that.
e.g Power Armor discussion
And it turns out to be somewhat F4 related

i found this and i have to share it with the community

Since this is a generic Fallout 4 discussion thread.. I'm gonna post a little rant on here.
Just bought a hard copy of the game & I still had to freaking download a big chunk of the data on steam. Now before anyone argues that it was already announced & that everybody uses steam anyway.. I didn't get the news & I don't wanna use steam, if it can be helped & not with most recent games though (They be sinister I say!) I just feel that getting hard copies would be more convenient. 19gb more to download, really? I paid good money & without a discount (not pre-order, direct retail purchase) for the game. It seriously defeats the purpose of getting hard copies. & this doesn't even prevent piracy. Spank you very much Bethesda!

To be fair, Bethesda isn't the only one that did this. When I got XCOM, I was surprised to find out it was for Steam, and it was a hard copy too. So Firaxis did it as well. I like having all my games under my hood, but I know about Steam and not actually owning the games so I hear ya.

Game looks amazing,i cant wait to see the mods you guys are going to come up with.

The data download was stupid, I am running out of space so I bought a hard copy only to find I needed to download over 20 gb of data what's the point anymore?

I really don't mind downloading something if only it's a small size or for a needed patch but a bought hard copy of the main game itself with only 5gb included & almost 20gb still needed to be DL'ed? It just ridiculous. Premium priced hard copies shouldn't have this kind of inconvenience at all. Pisses me off even more knowing that the bootleg torrent version has a better deal than a legit hard copy.