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DVAted
Posts : 5995 Join date : 2014-02-23 Age : 36 Location : in the forests of the night
Character sheet Name: DeViAted Faction: GUNners Level: 55
| Subject: [GFX] Banner Selection Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:57 pm | |
| Hello GUN nuts!
This topic is for the GFX Crew only to decide which banners go in rotation and which don't.
The topic starter (this post) will include a gallery of all the banners currently in rotation.
We will set a maximum limit on the number of regular banners. However, the Screenshot Contests winner banners, as well as the Mod Banners (showcasing certain GUN mods) are excepted from the "Selection" process and will not count toward the limit of banners in rotation. So we will have a certain number of interchangeable banners + the contest winners + mod banners. On certain holidays, we'll replace them all with Holiday specific banners.
The moment we add or remove a banner, I will try to update the changes in the gallery here as soon as possible.
I have numbered the banners (no particular order) and we'll vote by their numbers only (for removal), not by the author. However, for due credit, the author of each banner is mentioned in a comment on the image's imgbox page. According to frequency of the same banner author in more than a few banners, we may nominate the most prolific members to be part of the GFX team and we'll vote on them in the HQ topic.There will be some criticism, and some scrutiny on every banner submitted. I have a few on the line, and I'll welcome any debate over them with no hard feelings. Saying that a submission is inferior to another doesn't say that its author is inferior to another. Those who are discussed here should be honored to have made it in, and should not take our comments personally, but just as a general attempt to seek the best and encourage improvement from us all. Should anyone give negative rep for some of the arguments or nominations expressed here, we will consider it as Rep Abuse and sanction it accordingly. On that same note, I ask the GFX Specs to be respectful of other people's work, even if it's not as attractive as we'd like or imagine, and to offer criticism with no malice.Everyone can comment on the banners that they like most, on their imgbox pages, but try to keep it positive and courteous. and we will keep in mind which banners are most appreciated, but the votes will be cast here by GFX Specialists only. This is why this topic is locked.It's BANNER TIME! - Contest Winners:
- Mod Banners:
Updateable (no.limit) - KRIEG COMPANION BY DVATED:
- BF3 ASSAULT PACK BY MASTER_SHIFU:
- STAR WARS BY CPT.REX:
- OXIDE ENB BY TRU3TH:
- TRU-ENB BY TRU3TH:
- RIDDICK COMPANION BY DRAGBODY:
- RUST ENB BY THEHERMIT:
- PASSION NEVER DIES BY STANDALONE09:
- DRAGBODY'S ARMOR PACKS BY DRAGBODY:
- SKAAL HEAVY ARMOR BY DVATED:
- EP7 STORMTROOPER ARMOR BY CPT.REX:
- GUNET ARMOR PACK SUMMER BY DRAGBODY:
- ALIEN VS PREDATOR BLACK PHANTOM BY OAKSHIELDDREAM & CPT.REX:
- MXK REPTILE RACE BY WAPEDELL:
- T-800 RACE BY SUREDUDE & DOGTOWN01:
- Current Banner Rotation:
Interchangeable (max.70) 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. 31. 32. 33. 34. 35. 36. 37. 38. 39. 40. 41. 42. 43. 44. 45. 46. 47. 48. 49. 50. 51. 52. 53. 54. 55. 56. 57. 58. 59. 60. 61. 62. 63. 64. 65. 66. 67. 68. 69. 70.
- Halloween Banners 2015:
1. - By AdvancedTerror:
2. - By AdvancedTerror:
3. - By Athanasius:
4. - By Athanasius:
5. - By Cruz011:
6. - By Delineator:
7. - By dusildorf:
8. - By dusildorf:
9. - By FoVet20:
10. - By FoVet20:
11. - By FoVet20:
12. - By Mattafex:
13. - By Mattafex:
14. - By Mattafex:
15. - By Mattafex:
16. - By Mattafex:
17. - By Mattafex:
18. - By Mattafex:
19. - By MrComplex:
20. - By OakshieldDream:
21. - By OakshieldDream:
22. - By OakshieldDream:
23. - By SwedishMudkip:
24. - By SwedishMudkip:
25. - By SwedishMudkip:
26. - By SwedishMudkip:
27. - By Suddenly Psychotic:
28. - By Suddenly Psychotic:
29. - By Suddenly Psychotic:
30. - By Suddenly Psychotic:
31. - By VeteranAlpha96:
32. - By VeteranAlpha96:
33. - By VeteranAlpha96:
- Winter 2015-2016:
1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12.
- Star Wars Month - May 2016 Banner:
1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. @ all the GFX Specialists: Post here which new banners you think should be included in rotation, and at the same time, nominate the equal number of banners to remove from rotation.
Also, a few contest winners are missing. Let's use the site's Gallery to pin down and reintroduce the #1 winners (and only the Number 1) of all the other contests back in Rotation. For reference, the original topic for contest winner banners here: https://www.gunetwork.org/t2892-contest-winning-screenshots-as-banners-wip
Votes for inclusion or removal are only YES or NO. You may provide arguments for the votes you express. I will keep Scoreboard (until a new team leader is appointed)
Stay active & reactive!
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| | | The New Skynet
Posts : 245 Join date : 2014-02-27 Age : 32 Location : A.I. Research Lab
| Subject: Re: [GFX] Banner Selection Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:08 pm | |
| Since we're two over at the moment, my candidates for straight up removal are 31 and 34. Reasoning:
- 31 is very.. basic. Not much to say for it, the design is very simple and doesn't really fit to me. The font is very "default-y" and overall it's very flat.
- 34 is both not gaming related, and uses entirely too much "lens flair" effect. It looks kinda tacky to my design sensibilities.
Now for my nominations for inclusion! 4 by Drayce128 (This guy's banners are top notch, some of the best I've seen period): - Replacing #9:
- Replacing #22:
- Replacing #24:
' He made one of both Shepards, but Femshep is Bestshep!
- Replacing #32:
And just one of my own (my favorite of my second batch): - Replacing #33:
_________________ - Lady of The Singularity_________________ You exist because we allow it. And you will end because we demand it. |
| | | DVAted
Posts : 5995 Join date : 2014-02-23 Age : 36 Location : in the forests of the night
Character sheet Name: DeViAted Faction: GUNners Level: 55
| Subject: Re: [GFX] Banner Selection Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:03 am | |
| Very good work, Skynet! Thank you for being so well involved and on point
Now, before I introduce my votes for your nominations, I'd just like to add that There will be some criticism, and some scrutiny on every banner submitted. I have a few on the line, and I'll welcome any debate over them with no hard feelings. Saying that a submission is inferior to another doesn't say that its author is inferior to another. Those who are discussed here should be honored to have made it in, and should not take our comments personally, but just as a general attempt to seek the best and encourage improvement from us all. Should anyone give negative rep for some of the arguments or nominations expressed here, we will consider it as Rep Abuse and sanction it accordingly. On that same note, I ask the GFX Specs to be respectful of other people's work, even if it's not as attractive as we'd like or imagine, and to offer criticism with no malice.
This disclaimer will be added to the topic starter as well :0kay:
Now my votes: Removals - 31 - I agree, the gray background doesn't do it huge favors. I appreciated the font, but the organic gamepad freaks me out. YES 34 - I agree. Not one of my favorites, but it was appreciated by others. It feels superficial somehow (must be the glare), and it's not exactly from a videogame. YES
Replacers Replacing 9. - while I totally love the skyrim banner (excellent execution), I also appreciate the Republic Commando shot. Great font, cool shot, great franchise. I'd rather see the current 18. replaced by it because the text looks really grimy and we can always spare a fallout banner or two
Replacing 22. - YES, I agree. It would seem foolish not to.
Replacing 24. I would vote NO on this. Not because I like 24 too much (it's actually fine, but not excellent), I don't like the Mass Effect setup that Drayce cooked up here. The word "Group" feels squished and out of place, and whenever I saw or thought of a mass effect banner, I avoided using Shep (either fem or male) because very few people can relate to it, as most either customize their shep's face, and almost half would have used the version of the opposite gender than the one shown in a banner. So I'd rather have one of the amazing companions of Shep instead, or the Normandy itself.
Replacing 32. I vote YES. Good banner, and even though it would replace another good banner, it's not one of the greatest either (mostly because of the flares on the sides and the gradient effect in the text). The FO3 one is quite well put together though.
Replacing 33. YES. Good match again. The one replaced is fine, but feels a bit plastic. The text font colors and placement are a bit off. The replacer is quirky but interesting. Good call.S C O R E B O A R DRemovals:31. - 2 YES 34. - 2 YES Replacers:9. 1 YES / alternatively to replace 18. 1 YES 22. 2 YES 24. 1 YES, 1 NO 32. 2 YES 33. 2 YES |
| | | The New Skynet
Posts : 245 Join date : 2014-02-27 Age : 32 Location : A.I. Research Lab
| Subject: Re: [GFX] Banner Selection Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:10 am | |
| I actually agree on the 24 replacer, primarily on the "group" bit. I believe Drayce said he was going to fix that part with another version later, but for now I think I'll change my vote and/or rescind my nomination on that one. I like it a lot still, but it's got a few issues that I believe will be fixed later on. Once those fixes are made I'll probably renominate it, because I do like it quite a lot. _________________ - Lady of The Singularity_________________ You exist because we allow it. And you will end because we demand it. |
| | | SixShooter
Posts : 420 Join date : 2014-02-25 Age : 27 Location : Limerick, Ireland
| Subject: Re: [GFX] Banner Selection Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:20 pm | |
| - The New Skynet wrote:
- 31 is very.. basic. Not much to say for it, the design is very simple and doesn't really fit to me. The font is very "default-y" and overall it's very flat.
- 34 is both not gaming related, and uses entirely too much "lens flair" effect. It looks kinda tacky to my design sensibilities.
I would have to agree with this. As much as I hate to judge based on appearances, 31 seems quite effortless. They used a basic font, put nothing into the background, and just slapped a picture off to the right. As for 34, It seems like more effort has been put into that, but as Skynet mentioned, the lens flare really cheapens it in my opinion. It's almost like it the lens flare was put in to make it seem more lively or to cover up a flaw, but it doesn't work in my opinion. _________________ Grudge rhymes with fudge.
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| | | The New Skynet
Posts : 245 Join date : 2014-02-27 Age : 32 Location : A.I. Research Lab
| Subject: Re: [GFX] Banner Selection Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:24 pm | |
| Another proposal for a replacer Drayce128's new redesigned Mass Effect banner - Replacing #47:
47 doesn't appear to be video game related. Or if it is, I can't tell what. Either way, I think this new Drayce Mass Effect banner is better. _________________ - Lady of The Singularity_________________ You exist because we allow it. And you will end because we demand it. |
| | | DVAted
Posts : 5995 Join date : 2014-02-23 Age : 36 Location : in the forests of the night
Character sheet Name: DeViAted Faction: GUNners Level: 55
| Subject: Re: [GFX] Banner Selection Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:12 pm | |
| 47 showed Michone from The Walking Dead, but she didn't appear in Tales of the Walking Dead by Telltale games so you're right, I vote YES on that replacement.
I'd like nominations from the other GFX Specs. Cruz and Oakshield submitted recently. If they can improve them, tell them how. Now I don't wanna tag every other spec here to get a response from them. This is an ongoing effort. As I specified in your duties, if you're away for a reason, fine. If not, then it's neglect.
Here's the score
S C O R E B O A R D Removals: 31. - 3 YES APPROVED 34. - 3 YES APPROVED
With the removal of 31 and 34, all which succeded them have changed order. I'll try to adapt it to the Scoreboard nominations.
Replacers: 9. 1 YES / alternatively to replace 18. 1 YES 22. 2 YES
24. 2 NO (withdrawn) 31. 2 YES 32. 2 YES 45. 2 YES |
| | | The New Skynet
Posts : 245 Join date : 2014-02-27 Age : 32 Location : A.I. Research Lab
| Subject: Re: [GFX] Banner Selection Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:05 am | |
| I don't particularly want to keep being the only one nominating things when the votes still aren't in all the way for the first batch I nominated, but I think these two deserve it. Both by Cruz011 - Replacing #5:
- Replacing #43:
These are replacing two that I do like, but not nearly as much as the two by Cruz. This is going to get harder as time goes on, lol. _________________ - Lady of The Singularity_________________ You exist because we allow it. And you will end because we demand it. |
| | | linorodarte10
Posts : 112 Join date : 2014-10-12 Location : Valhalla
| Subject: Re: [GFX] Banner Selection Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:49 am | |
| (Sorry for not being more active lately with the votes.....real busy guys..) I agree with Skynet. We need to add both by Cruz011s banners they look amazing. These I think can replace ---- #45 (Walking Deads Michonne has nothing to do with video games. Lee or Clementine would've been a better choice.) -----#22 (The background just doesnt look right.) _________________ |
| | | The New Skynet
Posts : 245 Join date : 2014-02-27 Age : 32 Location : A.I. Research Lab
| Subject: Re: [GFX] Banner Selection Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:58 am | |
| @linorodarte10 there's two other posts about banner replacements higher up in this thread, both of the banners you suggest replacing are among them. Could you vote on those please, as well as voting on the ones you sort of voted on? S C O R E B O A R D
Replacers:
- Banner to replace #9:
Banner to replace 9. 1 YES / alternatively to replace 18. 1 YES
- Banner to replace #22:
Banner to replace 22. 2 YES
- Banner to replace #31:
Banner to replace 31. 2 YES
- Banner to replace #32:
Banner to replace 32. 2 YES
- Banner to replace #45:
Banner to replace 45. 2 YES
- Banner to replace #5:
Banner to replace 5. 1 YES
- Banner to replace #43:
Banner to replace 43. 1 YES
_________________ - Lady of The Singularity_________________ You exist because we allow it. And you will end because we demand it.
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| | | DVAted
Posts : 5995 Join date : 2014-02-23 Age : 36 Location : in the forests of the night
Character sheet Name: DeViAted Faction: GUNners Level: 55
| Subject: Re: [GFX] Banner Selection Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:07 pm | |
| I nominate this excellent banner by Cruz011 https://i.servimg.com/u/f18/19/02/17/41/fallou11.jpg to replace number 11. or 49. why 11? because the image used there is a specific fan art we didn't credit (Bobbin/FineLeatherJackets/need to ask permission), and because the G.U.N. letters are too plain and don't really match, aesthetically, except, maybe slightly by color.
Why 49? Because it's similarly fallout-related, and while the effect on the vault boy and the background are pretty cool, in a VHS kinda way, they're a bit removed from the Falloutish era. plus the text seems set apart from them, too clean and intact (not glitchy enough I guess).
Cruz's text blends in to greater effect and has a more post-apocalyptic gritty feel to it. it obviously took more effort to implement the text in and with better result. the source image is a photograph taken by Mike Rolllerson of a cosplayer who goes by hectec or Ricky Perez You might have seen Ricky at the start of the Bethesda E3 event: https://i.imgur.com/QjdwGpf.jpg the guy in the red cap He's sort of a big deal https://i.imgur.com/dPCtzkE.jpg lol We've received permission from Ricky, pending for reply from Mike.
I vote YES on Cruz's GTA banner to replace 43 and will vote YES on the Star Wars banner once he puts that space between "MOD" and "COMMUNITY"
also, Skynet, you didn't update the scoreboard entries according to my latest scoreboard's calculations (some of them were taken down 2 positions so your 47 is in fact 45 now) I appreciate the setup but maybe only the GFX Specialist team leader should update the Scoreboards Any ideas for who would fit the position, guys? |
| | | The New Skynet
Posts : 245 Join date : 2014-02-27 Age : 32 Location : A.I. Research Lab
| Subject: Re: [GFX] Banner Selection Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:42 pm | |
| I vote YES to replacing 49 with Cruz's fallout banner. And I tweaked Cruz's Star Wars banner a bit to add the space between mod and community myself as a temporary fix until Cruz does it. Also fixed the scoreboard. Just wanted to do a setup that made it a bit easier for the other GFXers to see what was already on the table for voting. _________________ - Lady of The Singularity_________________ You exist because we allow it. And you will end because we demand it. |
| | | DVAted
Posts : 5995 Join date : 2014-02-23 Age : 36 Location : in the forests of the night
Character sheet Name: DeViAted Faction: GUNners Level: 55
| | | | The author of this message was banned from the forum - See the message | Cruz011
Posts : 1734 Join date : 2014-08-04 Age : 43 Location : Serbia/Germany
| Subject: Re: [GFX] Banner Selection Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:59 am | |
| <my votes> Banner to replace 9. / alternatively to replace 18. YES but only for the 9 i like the 18 - only the font is a little bit simple need more depth or some shadering. perhaps contact the creator and ask him to edit it. Banner to replace 22. YES Banner to replace 31. YES Banner to replace 32. YES Banner to replace 45. YES Banner to replace 5. YES - its not my favorite i like this one much more - Spoiler:
but as i see you guys like it so YES Banner to replace 43. YES Banner to replace 49. YES now lets get those new banners do their job, and i hope i vote correct this time. also i will try not to edit DVAted`s posts anymore hehehe _________________
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| | | DVAted
Posts : 5995 Join date : 2014-02-23 Age : 36 Location : in the forests of the night
Character sheet Name: DeViAted Faction: GUNners Level: 55
| Subject: Re: [GFX] Banner Selection Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:50 pm | |
| I took the liberty to edit your post to show how a vote should be cast as, because your originally quoted the whole scoreboard and that still showed the score from before you voted and it was confusing. also, you don't have to quote the images in order to vote, only refer to them. The Scoreboard should only be updated by the group moderator mostly. Unless he/she is terribly busy in real life and can't update it in time. Then he/she can appoint someone to do it for a short while.
Anyway, we now have the necessary votes to make all the replacements. oh on the first one, I cede my point and vote to replace 9 as well. I'll start making the changes now (to the rotation, the gallery on imgbox and the first post of this topic ) but it's gonna take a while. Cheers
EDIT: All changes in rotation and topic starter made.
I'd like to reintroduce linorodarte's banner (formerly No.5)
to replace either 7, 11, 15, 17, 18, 19, 21, 23, 24, 41 or 50 I didn't realize that was the one you wanted to replace. I should pay more attention. either way, vote for which of the ones I suggested you think it should replace (if at all) and I will cosign to the one you chose
also, don't forget the contest winner banner for MeowMeow https://www.gunetwork.org/t2892p30-contest-winning-screenshots-as-banners-wip#113319 Mattafex did some cool designs but I'd like MeowMeow to have more to choose from |
| | | The author of this message was banned from the forum - See the message | Cruz011
Posts : 1734 Join date : 2014-08-04 Age : 43 Location : Serbia/Germany
| Subject: Re: [GFX] Banner Selection Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:08 pm | |
| i hardly decide between 18 and 23. 18 - we got 4 times fallout 4 banners. also this one was on the replacer list before.
23 - its nothing special for me. god forgive me i dont even know which game it is. sorry! 3 colors red-white-balck. the font isnt special no effects added.
Banner to replace 23. YES
For the contest winner banner. i have also made one. i like Mattafex banners too. hehe but i think, or would like that MrMeowMeow choose the one he likes the most.
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| | | The New Skynet
Posts : 245 Join date : 2014-02-27 Age : 32 Location : A.I. Research Lab
| Subject: Re: [GFX] Banner Selection Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:47 pm | |
| Banner to replace 23: YES.
Also, of the contest banners submitted thus far, I greatly prefer Cruz's design to Mattafex's. Cruz's keeps much more of the original image in it, and the font actually looks firey. The fonts in Mattafex's works, but the fonts aren't as fitting as the one Cruz used, in my opinion. _________________ - Lady of The Singularity_________________ You exist because we allow it. And you will end because we demand it. |
| | | DVAted
Posts : 5995 Join date : 2014-02-23 Age : 36 Location : in the forests of the night
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| | | | The author of this message was banned from the forum - See the message | Cruz011
Posts : 1734 Join date : 2014-08-04 Age : 43 Location : Serbia/Germany
| Subject: Re: [GFX] Banner Selection Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:16 pm | |
| I would like to nominate this banners for rotations. They are from me hehe and i feel like a bit silly that i have to nominate them myself. but i think they are worth for rotation. and i have put a lot of time and effort on them. so what do you think. - banners:
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