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Pharah
Posts : 3430 Join date : 2014-05-13
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| Subject: Things you hate in FO3/NV [Thread of RAGE] Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:10 pm | |
| People, or quests, or mechanics\gameplay part, or anything which can actually make you RAGE. I'll begin: Veronica: Ooo! Got something for me? Ahhh is that a dress!?!? - NO, WOMAN. IT'S NOT A DRESS. IT'S NOT. AND NEVER WOULD BE. IT'S A FREAKING MINIGUN AND TANK MINES. WHAT THE HELL. HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN WHERE ARE WE? WE ARE NOT AT THE FASHION PLAZA, BRUNO. WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WASTELAND. STOP IT. Oh, wait, wait a second. I forgot to give you one more thing. Open your inventory again, please. AHH IS THAT A DRESS!? *Punches her in the face* |
| | | starkiller130
Posts : 56 Join date : 2014-09-16 Location : The Other Side of Nowhere
| Subject: Re: Things you hate in FO3/NV [Thread of RAGE] Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:26 pm | |
| I would suggest not inciting my nerd rage but it's to late for that.. Something that has always been an issue for me and possibly a lot of other people too was the emptiness of the Mojave "Wasteland"(also the fact it was just the Mojave Desert with Fallout critters). While you could argue it adds to the "Wasteland feel", I feel it adds to the sense of incompletion Vegas has(and yes I know Obsidian only had 10 months) |
| | | The author of this message was banned from the forum - See the message | The Inquisitor
Posts : 650 Join date : 2014-05-09
| Subject: Re: Things you hate in FO3/NV [Thread of RAGE] Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:53 pm | |
| You cant join the raiders.Or bad guys more or less. In both fallouts. I always pick a bad karma play through (even when i dont it turns out to be a bad karma play through) I would love to join like Raiders, Fiends, Talon Company and have some kind of playthrough of pillaging and raiding towns/settlements. Also LEGION makes me rage, Just everything about them. D:< This door. XD The powder ganger when you enter nipton telling you about he won the lottery and being hella confused. XD _________________ I came here to make house mods and chew bubble gum... And I'm all out of bubble gum. |
| | | midnight1996
Posts : 154 Join date : 2014-09-12 Age : 27 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Things you hate in FO3/NV [Thread of RAGE] Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:54 pm | |
| how you cant continue playing after the battle of the Dam or in fallout 3 theirs no iron sights |
| | | The author of this message was banned from the forum - See the message | The Inquisitor
Posts : 650 Join date : 2014-05-09
| Subject: Re: Things you hate in FO3/NV [Thread of RAGE] Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:04 pm | |
| the lack of badassary bosses in FNV.
I felt the bosses of FNV were seriously lacking. and that kind of made me mad. i mean on hardcore and very hard. the bosses are hard. but eh..
_________________ I came here to make house mods and chew bubble gum... And I'm all out of bubble gum. |
| | | asc_kel
Posts : 350 Join date : 2014-08-07 Age : 42 Location : Texas, USA
| Subject: Re: Things you hate in FO3/NV [Thread of RAGE] Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:05 pm | |
| The lack of recognition once you take the strip over for yourself.. Everyone acts like you're still just some schmuck walking around. _________________ |
| | | The author of this message was banned from the forum - See the message | The Inquisitor
Posts : 650 Join date : 2014-05-09
| Subject: Re: Things you hate in FO3/NV [Thread of RAGE] Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:16 pm | |
| I know i complain about this alot.
But its how many years in the future and most the guns are just altered version of real life ones?
No high tech assault rifles. Only thing high tech is the wazer wifles and i dont care for energy weapons. XD _________________ I came here to make house mods and chew bubble gum... And I'm all out of bubble gum. |
| | | midnight1996
Posts : 154 Join date : 2014-09-12 Age : 27 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Things you hate in FO3/NV [Thread of RAGE] Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:29 pm | |
| - Raider Queen wrote:
- I know i complain about this alot.
But its how many years in the future and most the guns are just altered version of real life ones?
No high tech assault rifles. Only thing high tech is the wazer wifles and i dont care for energy weapons. XD yeah the most modern Guns are weapons form the 50s thank god for mods |
| | | Deadeas
Posts : 44 Join date : 2014-09-18 Age : 32 Location : U.S.A.
| Subject: Re: Things you hate in FO3/NV [Thread of RAGE] Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:40 pm | |
| Lockpicking being a skill. It should be something you invest in to make it easier, but I should be able to try locks above my "level". |
| | | asc_kel
Posts : 350 Join date : 2014-08-07 Age : 42 Location : Texas, USA
| Subject: Re: Things you hate in FO3/NV [Thread of RAGE] Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:54 pm | |
| I too hate the fact that there's no advanced weapons or armor past what they had during the war. I know the most advanced crap is held in the Institute, but come on.. Someone has to have been developing and advancing things aside from them.
Another thing that bothers me is the emptiness in a lot of locations. It often feels like a town can consist of 5 people in the games, when you would expect it to be 30 or so people huddled together for safety. I know we've been bombed to death, there's raiders and mutant things killing everyone, but there's enough population left from survivors and vault members to give a decent population. _________________ |
| | | Deadeas
Posts : 44 Join date : 2014-09-18 Age : 32 Location : U.S.A.
| Subject: Re: Things you hate in FO3/NV [Thread of RAGE] Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:58 pm | |
| - asc_kel wrote:
Another thing that bothers me is the emptiness in a lot of locations. It often feels like a town can consist of 5 people in the games, when you would expect it to be 30 or so people huddled together for safety. I know we've been bombed to death, there's raiders and mutant things killing everyone, but there's enough population left from survivors and vault members to give a decent population. You've got to keep in mind compression of space. Basically, extrapolate the distances and numbers of people out from from what they are naturally into something more fitting, because, let's face it, the engine can barely handle what it does normally, let alone realistic numbers of people and space. |
| | | asc_kel
Posts : 350 Join date : 2014-08-07 Age : 42 Location : Texas, USA
| Subject: Re: Things you hate in FO3/NV [Thread of RAGE] Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:03 pm | |
| I understand the limitations of it engine wise, but lesser games have made more populated areas look populated than Fallout 3 and NV managed. Even if it's more unnamed NPC's or just larger settlements with background noise would make the immersion a lot better. They don't all have to be outside 24.7 around me, I can understand if they want to stay in their homes lol. _________________ |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Things you hate in FO3/NV [Thread of RAGE] Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:23 pm | |
| The only thing about the game that bugs me is that characters/creatures are the only things which cast shadows.
If I thought they'd consider it, I would seriously think about paying someone at Bethesda to write a patch which codes projected shadows into the games.
Newer ENBs add a very basic shadow to some statics and clutter, but you have to be extremely close to see it. |
| | | NeatlyResolved
Posts : 95 Join date : 2014-09-07 Location : Highway to Hell
| Subject: Re: Things you hate in FO3/NV [Thread of RAGE] Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:27 am | |
| Something that bothered me was how people talk to you when you're in a dialogue conversation with them. They just look so passive. Makes me feel really weird. |
| | | SuperFraggle
Posts : 203 Join date : 2014-09-20 Location : Neo-New York
| Subject: Re: Things you hate in FO3/NV [Thread of RAGE] Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:46 am | |
| None of you are mentioning the number one SIN that NCR troopers spew out of their own mouths all the time.
"Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter."
It's like they are asking me to throw them into the sun. Nothing is more annoying than that one quote.
To me at least, hehe. _________________ We all have the power to SLAM-JAM in our hearts! Don't let DESPAIR take you over, SLAM JAM IT! |
| | | midnight1996
Posts : 154 Join date : 2014-09-12 Age : 27 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Things you hate in FO3/NV [Thread of RAGE] Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:11 am | |
| - SuperFraggle wrote:
- None of you are mentioning the number one SIN that NCR troopers spew out of their own mouths all the time.
"Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter."
It's like they are asking me to throw them into the sun. Nothing is more annoying than that one quote.
To me at least, hehe. i find being called profligate or degenerate very annoying and the powdergangers Damn run'in low on smokes again |
| | | Emperor Slyther
Posts : 621 Join date : 2014-02-25 Age : 33 Location : New Avalon, SK (Mars)
Character sheet Name: Red Queen Amaryllis Faction: Shadow Inquisition Level: Immortal
| Subject: Re: Things you hate in FO3/NV [Thread of RAGE] Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:56 am | |
| Well, there is certainly more than one thing in which angers me in all of Fallout gaming. Be warned, reader of this post, for this summary is quite long, and I may sound all violently heinous when I say it, but this is a what-makes-you-rage-about kind of thread, I'm letting it off my chest, so I'll start off with Fallout 3. - Fallout 3:
First off, I'll start off with how whiny-sounding the lone wanderer's voice is from Fallout 3. Personally I didn't care about the prologue, living as a child with the restriction of not fighting back at Butch(He somewhat pissed me off the first time I played FO3), but later as I play through the prologue every time, I feel dedicated to eating the sweetroll just to troll Butch. Butch is kind of an asshole, but he can be a helpful companion sometimes.
Secondly, both the Talon company AND regulators just love to piss me off, depends on what side I'm playing, so when that happens, I'm forced to go to their headquarters and make martyrs of their leaders as a warning that they will be next in the killing fields should they provoke my wrath any further. It seems simply just a one time, one thing for me thankfully. Regulators may be annoying when playing an evil character for instance, but the Talon Company is at the top of my most hated list, shoot to kill, search and destroy. I mostly have a tendency not to blow up Megaton because of my paradon example in the good characters I play, so it's very likely the Talon Company is a favorite target of mine, and I don't attack them alone. I bring an army(Enclave Commander modded STAG troops or SKMC marines to kill me so mercenaries and paint the grass with their blood, always a pretty sight to torture inhuman savage evil in broad daylight). But I don't try to be a hero, or an absolute villain in general gameplay. I try to keep things balanced in a manner of perspective I see fit.
Rivet City, oh don't even get me started. Almost everyone down there, I sincerely fucking hate. Human garbage at best for kind of survivors, they got a poor attitude when greeting newcomers, that aggression is expected because probably they've been survivors of raider attacks and talon mercenary attacks, I don't know the reason and I don't care. Rivet City is one of my most hated places in Fallout 3.
List of NPC's I hate in Fallout 3:
** Vault 101 people - For casting you out of society for no fucking reason if you did nothing wrong, and your old man should be the one for them to blame, not you. ** Colin Moriarty - I don't 100% hate him, but he's kind of an asshole. ** Harkness - Self explanatory. The asshole mall-cop down-syndrome of some security chief he is. Yeah, tough guy. Act all tough, c'mon. We love to see those reflexes, and you talking trash, makes you feel good, does it? I hate this guy absolutely, with a passion. Before entering that shit can Rivet City, I always pull out my sniper or a silenced weapon and assassinate this dickhead whenever I want to enter Rivet City without being harassed by him. ** Those slavers at the Lincoln Memorial - Because nobody tells me what to do. I go where I want, do what I want, and no man alive or dead commands me. They are met with the retaliation of my bullets and shrapnel. ** Princess from Little Lamplight - Does her majesty require me to express my royal hatred for her highness, or does she simply attract my ire to wound her in a verbal assault expressing how she has no friends and Mayor McCready hates her?
- Fallout New Vegas:
I'm personally just annoyed how everybody calls you the 'courier' ingame. Playing Fallout New Vegas is not my personal task to be a mailman, full OR part-time. I consider myself mostly as a soldier, no. A commando, assassin, squad leader, I don't know. Why not just be called the wasteland warrior or something? Because I got the skills and traits of a warrior ingame. I love how the game is based on choices like Deus Ex for instance. There are of course things I love, and things I hate in the game. I am only going to mention the people and factions I hate.
** New California Republic - Nothing 'new' about it. NCR alright. I offered alliance to them when I first started the game, I should've known. Only a small deed means a small factor to them, how much more must I go in NCR politics to gain their mutual respect? That is when I knew. They are the very founding reason why I hate Republicans. They make a good example of their greed and corruption in real life. But again, that's just with politics in real life. Back to FONV...
I will say for my most hated part is security detail trying to prevent their president from getting killed. I should be a fucking guard, not a goddamned civilian with no power watching Kimball's speech. When you ask someone to be in vow of service to security, you should let them do their job, or don't ask them to do security sweeps at all, period.
I also notice how poorly they treat the residents near Camp Golf and within Freeside. Near Golf, kids are wanting, needing food and water to survive, and how NCR was trying to make them starve to death like it was the communist era. Freeside on the other hand, yes I understand NCR's convoy was attacked by lowlife murderers on the streets, but then again, it just makes NCR as bad as them. So they only give food and water to 'NCR' citizens, and how the King himself took offense to that because neither him or the non-radical residents of Freeside weren't able to receive any food.
That is when I learned the truth about NCR's darker side of the background. They were attacked by the Great Khans no doubt, so they retaliated at Bitter Springs and took more lives than what justice demanded. They killed children, the poor and sickly, but most of this was done by members of the 1st Recon unit, or so I was told. Boone, Craig Boone himself, who many endorsed as an ally and companion for those who have good relations with the NCR themselves, I can't say I ever took Boone on any scenarios with me, but all I know for common is I have no sympathy for the man. Evidence he is drenched in sin clearly states from a 'love' letter saying how he 'enjoyed' killing the weak of the Khans like cattle. It was clearly evident to me that Boone is a war criminal, so he's made an enemy for life. Well, he's made extremely powerful enemies with my empire, all my soldiers will certainly be out to assassinate his sadist ass. All I can say is, Boone certainly will have no safe haven from me and my allied coalition and imperial forces...
In general gameplay, the encounters of NCR bounty hunters and legionary assassins are what annoys me the most. The legion doesn't fuck around, wastes no time and downright gets to killing, that's not a problem for me. What my main gright of this problem is the bounty hunters, who think they can 'police' you, greet your player talk all tough like and say 'you got 3 days to live unless you fix your reputation with NCR blah blah blah', SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! I DON'T CARE!!! I OFFEND YOU ON PURPOSE, SO SHUT UP, AND GET TO THE KILLING, NCR THUGS!!! That's what triggers my hate factor, that is what fuels me to do more damage to NCR than I have already done. NCR in general, is essentially corrupt. I don't accept a 'lesser' evil. I may have more than three reasons in which I despise NCR's presence in Nevada, but I know for a fact I will never side with NCR again. I don't hate NCR because they talk tough. I hate NCR because they're fucking annoying. Tough people won't waste their time talking, but clearly I can see NCR is weak.
** Crimson Caravan - NCR's favorite bootlickers. They've certainly earned the reputation of being terrorists to my nation Because I hate the NCR at heart, these little terrorists take up arms and dare have the nerve to attack me when I'm alone, or if I have soldiers with me. So I retaliate, leaving their little trading post in fire and ruin. I have honor at least to not engage civilians, but anyone else who sympathizes with NCR ingame YET they take up arms and try to fight back, my military will treat them like that of enemy combatants, and they will most certainly, be shot in my line of view...
** Caesar's Legion - Considering I may have more respect for viking culture than the Romans, why not? Because 51 BC Rome is a perfect example of imperialism. Caesar's Legion, no different than the enemy I love to burn in the past, I could even summon an army of dragon riders and have their mounts burn down Imperial camps in Skyrim, but we're talking about Fallout New Vegas. There are other factions that may have some potential connection to Rome, some of these factions are not in the game for instance. Why do I hate the legion? Simple. Brutal slavery, prejudice against women, and just plain, flat-out evil. Women serve them no better than slaves, or personal pleasure to Caesar's officers. Their language and the understanding of the old era codecs looks pretty badass for something not too modern, but their doctrines and beliefs on how to run an empire is something I won't allow. NCR may be scared of the Legion to resort to fall-back and ambush tactics, but if the Legion should fear anyone the most, it will be me. When they sleep and close their eyes at night, subdued to their sub-conscious, tortured by their thoughts of guilt for all the evil they have done, it will be thoughts of me and my soldiers that they are tortured with. I will be cruel to the legion at best. Sure, they may be good with melee, but they are no match for STAG's CQB, and our ancient dragon knighthood. I will use whatever is necessary to take down the enemy, be it charge up and personal, or set up traps and flashpoints if for instance it may be defense missions. I'm gonna say for the least legion centurions are hardly any challenge to me, but NCR using stolen Brotherhood of Steel armor for their power armor, bitch please. They're no match for my battle mechs.
** Boomers - Some-what I hate them in a way. There are things I like and things I hate about them. Sure they're trying to defend themselves from the dangers and cruelty from the outside world, but they do exhibit a hostile kind of behavior, it just depends on my threshold of how much verbal garbage I can tolerate from most of them. What really provokes me in killing them is making derogatory comments about my canine companion(If traveling with one). They're alright if you play your cards right, but be prepared to get your hands dirty if you feel the Boomers turn evil, and feel the need to pull the plug.
The overall gameplay in both, seeing they on the same engine, I'm just pissed off the fact that I feel Obsidian Entertainment was rushed by the Bethesda asshats, Fallout New Vegas would've been complete, for if Obsidian had all the time to finish it's product. This is one of the reasons why I've lost respect for Bethesda in the recent days to come, their selfish introduction in partnership with ID at Quakecon revealing Doom 4 only for private audiences is another. If Bethesda keeps this up with their poorly done game mechanics or acts of lethargy when making new games, I might not buy another game from them ever again. I am known primarily to get extremely angry with both the games whenever I freeze or crash constantly after 10 minutes or less. I can't travel to new places more than 3 or 4 times, if there is a mod that prevents this, let me know. Though I run FONV with all the DLCs purchased in the ultimate edition, then again it could be any mod, I have too many mods installed, or I don't know the source. That concludes my rage post related to Fallout, and the post may be edited to add additional information if I feel it's appropriate to do so. EDIT : All I have to say in theory is if Fallout was in real life right now and the NPCs so happen to be real life people I would say to them, the price can be pretty high when you're dealing with someone who's not afraid to push back... _________________ "Some men just want to watch the world burn." -Alfred Pennyworth**Screenshot story-arcs on hiatus until further notice**
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| | | vaulttech101
Posts : 207 Join date : 2014-09-03 Age : 35 Location : Russian Federation
| Subject: Re: Things you hate in FO3/NV [Thread of RAGE] Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:23 am | |
| Nooooo nu uh what really made me mad was when the ncr talks down on you oh my gosh that make me soooooooo trigger ancy if you know what I mean |
| | | Shadowthief
Posts : 177 Join date : 2014-09-18 Age : 28 Location : Amata's House.
| Subject: Re: Things you hate in FO3/NV [Thread of RAGE] Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:15 am | |
| My only complaint for the Fallouts are you are kinda forced using the VATS, the accuracy in FO3 is horrid, and also no sprinting. Everything feels very slowly. But mods fix all these problems. ( :
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| | | Bandikoot
Posts : 149 Join date : 2014-09-21 Location : N.Sanity Island
| Subject: Re: Things you hate in FO3/NV [Thread of RAGE] Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:31 am | |
| I just hate getting ambushed by something I never saw. Like this one time when I got out of a sewer system. I look right and this gecko just leaps at me. It scared me and I started spraying shots everywhere to kill it. |
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