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Help. Transitioning to my new computer. Getting desperate. | Help. Transitioning to my new computer. Getting desperate. | |
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cyborggunslinger2.0
Posts : 58 Join date : 2014-12-13 Location : United States
| Subject: Help. Transitioning to my new computer. Getting desperate. Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:09 pm | |
| NOTE: I HAVE SOLVED MY PROBLEM. IF YOU ARE TRYING TO DO THE SAME THING, VIEW MY LAST POST FOR THE SOLUTION.
Uuughh. This is such a pain. I'm having a difficult time making my transition to my "new" computer. I've been trying to research an answer but either there is too much information to sort through (in my reddit search attempts) or getting relevant results is near impossible. (in my google search attempts) In my exhaustion and desperation, I come to VGU hoping someone can at least point me in the right direction for a solid solution.
To save time, I'll leave a link to another topic I made which has all the background info on my "new" computer. http://vgunetwork.forumotion.net/t2643-gaming-computer-rig-hardware-for-christmas
Now I haven't installed any of the new hardware yet because all I'm concerned about right now is transferring my stuff from my old computer to my new computer which I knew long before that it was going to be the most problematic.
Alright, here's what I want to do in a nutshell. I want to turn on my new computer, log on, and continue where I left off as if it where my computer all along. Yes sounds very demanding, but I know there has got to be a way to do it. I will not settle for anything less just because it's easier. I will do whatever it takes.
I'm not trying to be an ass at all. I'm just being completely honest. DON'T TELL ME TO USE "WINDOWS EASY TRANSFER". IT'S A PIECE OF SHIT. Screw Microsoft. There I said it.
Here's what I already tried. I have made a backup and system image of both computers. I also made a Windows 7 repair disk with my current computer. I factory reseted the new computer and tried restoring the backup and image of my current computer on it. That was major fail. I screwed it up a couple times and had to factory reset it between each time. Then I finally did it right and the damn thing wouldn't even boot Windows anymore and I facepalmed bigtime. The startup repair didn't even work. Thank god I made a backup and image of it too. After restoring it with its own backup and image, I factory reset it again for the fourth time. I then decided for the heck of it to do "Windows Easy Transfer". (blehhk!) Of course, just as I thought, it was far from satisfactory. I was surprised that my desktop background was still there though. Most programs obviously don't work, and most of my system settings are not present. (even my custom sound scheme was turned off and set to default) And that's where I'm at now. (until I do the factory reset for the fifth time)
My hopes aren't very high, but I'd very much appreciate it if someone could at least point me to where my problem has been answered. Thank you. _________________ I'm just one of those big gun nuts - Spoiler:
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| | | Furente7
Posts : 183 Join date : 2014-12-07 Age : 34 Location : Single Occupant Exoatmospheric Insertion Vehicle
| Subject: Re: Help. Transitioning to my new computer. Getting desperate. Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:37 pm | |
| Personally, I would have just moved the old stuff to the new computer. Copy everything from the old one (obviously delete all unnecessary windows related stuff, just keep docs and stuff) and put it on the new one. Then install all the drivers and other stuff yadda-yadda. It's a new computer, and it's meant to function that way. It's like people, no two people have the same fingerprints. You're better off not trying to clone your old computer instead make the new one a successor image. Hope you get what I mean. But good luck with it regardless |
| | | r4v3n
Posts : 17 Join date : 2015-01-08 Age : 49 Location : Flow-Ridah
| Subject: Re: Help. Transitioning to my new computer. Getting desperate. Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:00 pm | |
| Macrium Reflect, that can do almost exactly what you require. Almost, & I should mention there's a steep learning curve on the OS transfer. The downside is that the best version for doing so uses a linux environment, and it's not inexpensive (You'll need the Win PE version). |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Help. Transitioning to my new computer. Getting desperate. Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:46 pm | |
| Personally I'd take the HDD of the old machine and make it the slave drive/secondary drive in the new one. That gives your new PC immediate access to anything on your old drive, and you can move any stuff in User/personal folders into a generic C:\backup stuff type folder beforehand.
Trying to use an OS install from one PC in a new one can cause all kinds of problems, like hardware/software conflicts. And yeah there's software to 'transfer' it, but that has its own set of risks and quirks... are you sure you want to trust that kind of program with all of your data? |
| | | The Vault Projects
Posts : 158 Join date : 2014-07-24 Location : Mojave Wasteland
| Subject: Re: Help. Transitioning to my new computer. Getting desperate. Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:53 pm | |
| Suggestion: I would recommend getting a second hard drive, which would be your primary from now on and addition to said hard drive, you could also install the original hard drive to the computer and have access to both at the same time- rather than going back and forth between computers to transfer data.
I do not recommend getting desperate and just running the original hard drive as is with the new setup; changes in motherboard and graphics cards will most likely cause you some problems as each are built differently compared to your original hardware and will have different drivers and USB paths. It is especially dangerous if you are going to a new motherboard with an AMD processor to an Intel processor as this has significant changes in your software and hardware. |
| | | ZeroParticle
Posts : 60 Join date : 2015-01-01
| Subject: Re: Help. Transitioning to my new computer. Getting desperate. Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:11 pm | |
| I suppose if you don't mind keeping the original HDD, you could use the Windows 7 Sysprep to move your HDD.
If done properly, Sysprep would let you keep your profile, your installed programs, and your files. You will lose your drivers because of the hardware changes, but you can always install a driver tool to quickly download/update those.
Several years ago, when I bought a new PC, I was able to use Sysprep to transfer my old HDD to the new setup without any issue.
This link has the tutorial I used. |
| | | cyborggunslinger2.0
Posts : 58 Join date : 2014-12-13 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: Help. Transitioning to my new computer. Getting desperate. Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:40 pm | |
| ZeroParticle I think you may have found the exact answer I was looking for!
THANK YOU!!!!! I'M GONNA GIVE THIS A GO!
I have a couple questions first though. Can I do this without keeping the same hard drive? My current hard drive is half the size of the one in the new computer and I only have 20 gigs left as it is. Also, how difficult is it to get all my drivers reinstalled? Won't there be some complications?
Oh, I DO have a hard drive adapter by the way so maybe that might help. It also comes with cloning software but I'm obviously not going to need to use that. _________________ I'm just one of those big gun nuts - Spoiler:
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| | | ZeroParticle
Posts : 60 Join date : 2015-01-01
| Subject: Re: Help. Transitioning to my new computer. Getting desperate. Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:22 pm | |
| I think in the link I gave you, Method 3 allow you to transfer your installation to a new HDD. Or you can always use your new HDD as a secondary drive and keep the old one as primary.
As for the drivers, Sysprep should resolve any complication. When you boot up your new PC with your old installation, some basic drivers will be installed. They will be outdated for sure, but your computer will run with the new hardware configuration.
When I did the transfer, I moved from AMD to Intel/Nvdia, and nothing bad happened.
After that, I recommend something like SlimDrivers, which manages your drivers and lets you update all outdated drivers in one go. It definitely beats trying to figure out which drivers you will need to update. I use it myself so I can vouch for its usefulness.
You can get that here. |
| | | cyborggunslinger2.0
Posts : 58 Join date : 2014-12-13 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: Help. Transitioning to my new computer. Getting desperate. Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:30 pm | |
| THANK YOU SO MUCH! You have no idea how helpful you've been!
Tonight I'll factory reset the new computer for the last time and tomorrow I'll do the transfer for sure. _________________ I'm just one of those big gun nuts - Spoiler:
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| | | cyborggunslinger2.0
Posts : 58 Join date : 2014-12-13 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: Help. Transitioning to my new computer. Getting desperate. Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:31 pm | |
| Hey Zero I sent you a PM. I have a couple questions. _________________ I'm just one of those big gun nuts - Spoiler:
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| | | cyborggunslinger2.0
Posts : 58 Join date : 2014-12-13 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: Help. Transitioning to my new computer. Getting desperate. Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:55 am | |
| YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! I FINALLY DID IT! I knew it was possible. After at least a week of determination, I pulled it off. PERSERVERENCE people! PERSERVERENCE! As a wise rabbit (or hare) once said, "Never give up, trust your instincts!" I could have posted this a couple days ago, but I've been having too much fun testing my new rig. I now understand what people mean about that feeling you get when you first flip the power switch and watch your creation spring to life. Though I only replaced a few parts, it was a great experience and the success of my massive transfer endeavor made it just magical. Now listen up. If you have just gotten a new computer or plan on getting one and you want to do a complete transfer like I did, I wish to save you a lot of time and late-night headaches. Here are the resources I used that allowed me to do a complete and almost seamless transfer of my computer. IMPORTANT! BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING, MAKE A COMPLETE BACKUP AND SYSTEM IMAGE OF YOUR PC! - Spoiler:
The first thing I did, was follow these three videos exactly. (excluding the virtual machine aspects)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCX39ADVLHY NOTE: After downloading Windows AIK, I used a program to mount it as a virtual cd to install it. Also, make sure you install Windows AIK in C:\WindowsAIK\ (NO SPACE between Windows and AIK!) This makes following the video easier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uO-PaMvXsU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mDwEsIskXQ NOTE: Since the drive letters are not always the same for every computer, (mine didn't match the video exactly) write on a piece of paper the relationships between your drives and the ones in the video so when it refers to a drive letter to do an action to, you can quickly just substitute in your equivalent drive letter. (for example E: = G:) This helped me follow the video easier. Also, if you are using an empty external hard drive to save the .wim to, make sure you place a file or folder in it so you can easily identify it in the command prompt. (I put a folder in it named "THIS IS THE EXTERNAL HARD DRIVE!" as well as a couple random files)
I then had to restore the system image I made beforehand in order to follow this next video. I think you can save time though by doing this video (except for the last part) before doing sysprep in the second video I mentioned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMK5c1-2JJA (yeah I know, he's hard to understand and he should have remade the video) NOTE: When he gets to the part with "winpeshl.ini", you need to make that file yourself in Notepad and make sure you save it as .ini Also, when you get to the part where he unmounts the .wim, MAKE SURE YOU CLOSE OUT ALL THE FOLDERS AND THE NOTEPAD BEFORE DOING THAT COMMAND!!!! I F-ed this up and it cost me a lot of time.
Now the final step includes the end of that last video and I also used the last quarter of this video for a little extra information https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiMmSkhevkE I did have problems starting my new computer but booting in safe mode followed by a regular boot and then using information from these resources solved them. https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/f7e1a2ce-f797-4e34-ae47-529926186275/windows-could-not-finish-configuring-the-system-error-after-sysprep-generalize?forum=w7itproinstall (this one didn't help my specific situation but it might apply to you) http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/61328-63-widows-setup-configure-windows-computer-hardware (this solved my problem and kinda made me chuckle because the solution is so simple and is pretty much a command that tells the computer "Shut the fuck up and continue!"
The new computer still requires some fiddling and a few small things don't function properly, (weird screen resolution, no Windows aero peek, a few malfunctioning services, no biometric security feature ect.) but for the most part, it's a perfect clone of my laptop. I am so happy. _________________ I'm just one of those big gun nuts - Spoiler:
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