Hi Guys!

I have found myself at a bit of a crossroads. I usually find myself playing single player games, but Fallout is one of my favourite franchises of all time. Fallout 76 looks beautiful, but I am unsure if it is worth the cost. A lot of people I know have told me off for even considering buying it, and I have seen several youtubers come out against it. For those reasons I am unsure of actually purchasing the game.

This community knows fallout better than anyone, and everyone on it seems honest, and very nice. So im asking if it is worth purchasing now, later, or to avoid the game entirely. There are several other games in which I can invest my money, but it is limited for the time being, it being Christmas and all.

This is my overall opinion on the game now a bit over a month later and a little over a hundred hours in with two characters being level 89 and 58.

Fallout 76 at it's core is a online PVE survival game with very optional PVP. The game will mostly revolve around you going around doing various quests, looting all junk you find and hording more weapons and armor than one human should. The world itself is rather beautifully crafted with quite a few locations that are rather fun to explore as is to be expected out of a Bethesda title. Most of the story telling in Fallout 76 is done VIA notes, terminals and holotapes that can range from a minute up to around 5 or so. The endgame for Fallout 76 turns the game into a looter-shooter in which you just grind out addition perk cards, schematics for you CAMP or items and farming for various legendary weapons and armor. Lastly the game does shine it's brightest when you're playing with people you know. When doing so the game definitely becomes less of a struggle and way more of a group effort that is a ton of fun and makes time go by in an instant.

The game definitely has it's flaws. Sometimes you will see major bugs like people glitching their carry weight or being trapped in Power Armor or bugs that are minor like enemies holding their guns weird or them spawning in places that shouldn't be possible. Regardless of what it may be you will 100% see bugs of some sort, they are unavoidable. Also despite the world being beautifully crafted some of the explanations given to why a location is the way it is can be VERY lackluster if one even exists for that matter, which that alone can be disappointing. While on the subject of "lackluster" the story for the game is lackluster and pretty sub-par, so if you want 76 for a good main story look elsewhere. Lastly while on the subject of stories, story you find on holotapes/notes/terminals can all be rather well acted or written, there are plenty of said items though that can still go the way of the world and fall flat on their face and be un-interesting to say the least.

So with that said I would say that unless your money is burning a hole in your pocket and you really really REALLY need Fallout 76 I would say to wait a few more months at the least. The game has potential to be a great survival game and more but currently paying full price is a no-go from me. Maybe if it is on sale between 15-30 dollars (don't pay full price like the lot of us) then I would say to consider it but only take the plunge if it is something you really want to do and if you have people to play with as the game is way more fun and tolerable with friends than without them.

Hopefully something there answered your question, if not then oh well I suppose.

@"Fury" No this does in fact answer my question, thank you so much for the reply. I can see it took alot of time and was well detailed. Im glad to hear that Bethesda still made another beautiful world, but will heed your advice on possibly holding off until it goes on sale.

Its weird that so many are so hostile to it, and that I was getting so much backlash for even considering purchasing it. Do you think its just people piling on a hate train that's making the problems seem worse than they are?

@jetpack4 I have my own opinion on this matter and could easily type another several paragraphs but I will simply leave it at this.

I genuinely don't know, if I knew a definitive answer I would tell you. Could be disappointment, could be over hype or different expectation. It could be any number of things, but all I do know is that people just seem to lose all human decency the second they see, hear or read something that they disagree with and it is just.. sad. I'll just leave it at that otherwise this will go on for longer than it needs to.

@jetpack4 Well if you want to buy it, now would be the right time to, hell the thing was getting on sale less than a week after launch, plus we are right behind Christmas so at this point it should be like 50% off(and even more) than the original release price, and it launched last month lol.

Facts aside, personally i wouldn't even consider to give money to Bethesda right now, not a damn penny, maybe i would if i was a fanboi and if there weren't way better stuff to play and spend my money on out there.

But, if you want to go down that path fuck it, go for it, i wish you have a blast playing it, let us know how it goes, and good luck on the wastes.

I got it for 30 Euro for PC and it was a waste of money to me

First of all Im not a hater of Fallout 76 and I was so hyped for the game and I managed to play in Fallout 76 Beta thanks to a friend but playing for 2 sessions my hype died. Here's my opinions about Fallout 76;

- First things first you need someone, friend or friends, a group the more the merrier. Because the game forces you to play as a group, there will be times that you can't kill a monster without help or finish a quest. If you're planning to play alone you shouldn't buy it (in my opinion ofc). It will be fun at first but after some time you will get bored because in the end you just keep doing the same thing, kill robots and monsters , listen audio tapes, kill more robots and monsters.

- There's no human NPC in the game not even raiders and this is a fun-killer. Entering a Raiders camp knowing that, there will be no Raiders in it.. it sucks. And there more to that. Every interactible thing is robot or a console. Quest rewards just pops up in your inventory is not realistic.

- There's not much of a main quest or an objective in the game. The moment you leave the Vault 76, you just do some tutorial quests for a beginner player and get some gear and after that, you either follow the quests for the Responders faction or wander the wastes to find quests.

If you have any questions feel free to ask I will try to answer it.

please DO NOT buy fallout 76 under any circumstances, and i mean that sincerely. Anyone who purchases Fallout 76 now is basically telling Bethesda that it's ok to release half-assed, half-baked and technically inept products. It's ok to treat your customers like idiots. it's ok to outright lie to your customers. it's ok to have aggressive microtransactions in your game.
We as a community need to demand better from these fuckers and the only way to do that is vote with our wallets.
if you have a love of fallout then why not dive into Fallout New California and throw the mod makers some money. is it not better to reward those who made a great product that love fallout as much as you, rather than give money to a AAA publisher who clearly think you are an idiot.

It's clear for from how they've tried to trick their customers with the nylon bag, the "discounted" holiday bundle and milk them with ridiculous mircotransactions prices this is not just a simple "experiment" from them, this is a full blown cash grab using the Fallout name.

Some folk are defending Bethesda but I don't understand why, it's clear Bethesda doesn't really care about them or the game considering some of the updates so far like half-assed ultra-wide update.

It's more then just the game is buggy, it's the way Bethesda has tried to pull fast one more then once on it's customers, it's the way Bethesda has been updating game leaving out important details that were only found by people data mining the game, like the nerfing of exp gains and among other things.

Look, as someone who found some level of enjoyment in the game, no. Don’t buy it, I got bored after like a week or so, unless you’re going to be playing with friends consistently the content that’s there isn’t worth the $60. As Fury said, if it’s on a steep sale, grab it, otherwise grab a better game.

You can already get the best part of the game (the Pip-Boy) for New Vegas anyway.

Oh wow, thats alot of replies haha. The general gist of this seems to be "Do not buy it unless its on sale or at least until Bethesda manage to get organised." So I will take all of your advice on board, and will pursue this as the best course of action.

Although I have not heard much about the micro-transactions in the game, are there many and have they made the game pay to win?

@jetpack4 No, not yet at least (there's only cosmetic stuff like paintjobs, retextures, forniture) since you know, apparently lootboxes are coming soon and it seems that those contain damage/XP/resistance bonuses according to the lines found on game .esm, but still, those wouldn't be pay to win imo, since the game doesn't have a competitive nature and the pvp is still broken as far as i know.

B U T, there's a lot of stuff on the atomic shop that came straight from Fallout 4, yes, they're charging for tattoos, clothing and other stuff that was already in the previous game, that along with the outrageous prices of pretty much everything.

Then there's this:


Come on Lolthesda, Insomniac gave Sam Raimi's Spiderman suit to the fans ffs! for FREE.
At this point they're giving away themselves to be the industry's laughing stock

jetpack4 wrote:

Oh wow, thats alot of replies haha. The general gist of this seems to be "Do not buy it unless its on sale or at least until Bethesda manage to get organised." So I will take all of your advice on board, and will pursue this as the best course of action.

Although I have not heard much about the micro-transactions in the game, are there many and have they made the game pay to win?

Not really, there is something called Atom Points in the game. You gain them by either purchasing which Its really unnecessary or by playing the game itself! There's lots of challanges like Level Up! or killed ** amount of enemies which will grant you atom points I remember collecting something like 800 in 2 days. You can use your Atom Points to purchase Cosmetic Items thats all. There's no pay-to-win element in the game.

For me this game should have been given by free for the owners of Fallout 4. It is really damaging the name of the company and the Fallout series.

For me i think its not worth because when you buy it, then it was fun but only for a few days so that my opinion just dont buy it

Depending on what you want, it ranges from either No to not at the moment. If you want a game with an engrossing story and characters or a classic Fallout game, then no. If you're looking for a fun survival game to kill time with friends, then wait for more patches to fix a lot of the game breaking issues.

Simple question, do you want online fallout experience with no npcs and a literally barren wasteland and only have 26 to 32 players per server? Do you like fallout 4 mechanics and stuff? Do you like a game that's not focused on lore and writing and just really collecting stuff and fighting mutants and people, generally just trying to have fun? Do you tolerate game bugs of all ranges? Do you have a few cash to spare for this game?

If your answer is yeah, mmm yeah, sure i guess, lol of course, then I'd say try it.

Yeah, from what I see most people have shifted to "Its not really a Fallout game. Its more a Rust clone." Or it least tries to be. Waiting until the price drops again seems to be the best bet.

Although after seeing controversy after controversy such as the Nuka Rum fiasco, and the fact that they released a holiday theme pack for the same price as a full DLC, im not sure of even buying it at all anymore until things stay quiet for a consecutive amount of time.

I haven't played it so I can't say first hand but from what I've seen it looks very dull and poorly executed, if you have a group of friends to play it with you might be able to squeeze some enjoyment out of it, but it is hardly the game's merit.

It's up to you at the end if you want to purchase it but I would suggest waiting until the price is even lower than it is now.

As a player of Fallout 76 from the day they went BETA key giveaway to today, the best course of action for this is to, unfortunately, not buy the game. It's not worth it.

About that main quest TheHusky said in his Dec. 22 post:

Also, while there's a chance that it will go and simmer down when the controversies end (latest, apparently by JuiceHead, are duping glitches and more server disconnects), you mind find yourself alone by that time.

I bought it for £10.00 so not too upset by the game. However lets be honest. It is trash.